Ride UK Fires Back.

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As is to be expected (everyone wants their share of the page views), Robin Fenlon wrote up a piece on Ride UK about the Streetphire poll. He raises some good points about why the results won’t be accurate and defends print’s existence. I wasn’t even going to post a link but then I saw 4Down’s tweet about the article:
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It’s true. But what makes the opinion of someone who works at a magazine more important or relevant than the opinion of some dude that starts a blog? Especially someone who starts a popular blog, as H Man has done? News flash: There are some fucking IDIOTS who work for BMX magazines. Everyone wants to write a 2 paragraph comment on The Come Up listing off why print is so essential and will never die. But 4Down’s Tweet reminds me of why the internet is so awesome. It levels the playing field and the barriers of entry all drop. Some fool like me can start the biggest BMX website of all time from his bedroom. I’m not sure what kind of traffic Streetphire gets, but H-Man has certainly carved out his own niche and made a name for himself in his scene.

Robin’s article has this quote:

“On the internet, any Tom, Dick or Harry can have a voice, as demonstrated by the Streetphire post. You buy a magazine and you’re going to view high quality filtered BMX content. If you don’t fancy paying the price of a single beer for it then you can search though the thousands of crap photos and poorly written blogs online.”

But is that actually reflective of your experience online? No. It’s not reflective of anyone’s experience, because on the web, the good stuff floats to the top while the bad stuff sinks. Everyone checks sites like TCU and Defgrip because we have a consistent track record of giving you what you want. Even a site like SPRFLS shot to notoriety in a couple months just by providing content that people were interested in. If you come up with something interesting, that people like, your website will flourish. If not, you’ll be one of the thousands of BMX blogs that get close to no traffic.

Most of you don’t need any convincing that the internet is the end all and be all of obtaining information, because you already cast that vote every day by clicking around on TCU. I just wish magazines would stop bullshitting about the importance of the internet. I figured out a year or two ago that I’m good enough at this blogging shit that I don’t have to try and tear any competitors down, whether online or in print because the quality of what I put out will speak for itself. Magazines should do the same thing and focus on putting out quality issues every month instead of justifying their existence (on the internet).

  • http://www.ridetimeextended.com wtfx

    thats why you rule adam.

  • http://Website Name (required)

    EVERYONE HAS MISSED THE POINT HERE!

    HMAN DOESNT ACTUALLY RIDE!

  • http://backseatbangers.com MikeHunt

    Owned.

  • http://Website.tramp.com Chat Sting

    H mans views are like footballs… pointless the dirty little ginger virgin. Go suck another dick to get ure rent money. But dont tell ure ,um thats how u pay ure board

  • http://Website oopsSharted

    well writen. just support your scene and what you can afford

  • http://Website rootier

    it used to be that you got a name in bmx by being a good rider,now you just have to post some shite online and your a name in the scene

  • http://Website bobandy

    TCU hasn’t really generated any original content, besides some half-assed interviews and editorials. TCU is a news filter.

  • http://Idiot.com You are an Idiot

    But is that actually reflective of your experience online? No. It’s not reflective of anyone’s experience

    WRONG – It is very reflective of mine.

  • http://www.shithawks.co.uk shithawk1

    more 4down vs 70′s? the industry is boring. No matter how hard people in it try to others care. bring back the annual I say

  • http://mysticnegro.com G. Edward Jones, Jr.

    As someone who’s gone through this (and if you missed Fudger v Me, well you didn’t miss much it was very, very dumb) I have to say, honestly, why? No, seriously, if you work at or run a magazine (especially a long running and respected one) you gain an air of legitimacy just by your job (whether this is warranted or not is another story). When you attack a blog what you’re doing is letting everyone know that you find it worth your time, lending it legitimacy. Which, I think, is awesome.

    Even though blogs completely throw the signal to noise ratio out of whack (the problem with everyone writing is that everyone can’t write). Until magazines do what blogs do (and good luck for that as long as there are advertising dollars involved or, hell, as long as the people who work at magazines are the people who work at bike companies and lets not forget print lead times) or do something that blogs CAN’T do (and as someone with stacks and stacks of old magazines there comes a time when your wife tells you that keeping them around is no longer an option) I think we’re going to see people going online for more and more of their stuff. I don’t know if that’s *good* but I think it’s *inevitable.*

  • http://Website Alex

    and you know what’s even better adam?
    websites like yours give everyday normal riders a chance to get their name out there, a chance to have their video viewed by thousands, and an overall better outlook of BMX.
    Because you’re not outlining all the hard ass bangers, the fucking video game riders, and the real hardcore street dudes in every god damn page.
    While still outlining some of BMX’s best, you are still giving the others who enjoy bmx a better experience by including them as well.

  • http://Website rich

    amen- people dont give a shit about what people like adam22 and other bloggers really have to say- the only thing that around about 95% of people ever check TCU for is to watch new videos. however!
    1) the opinion of an established magazine writer is much more valid than an internet blogger- well, ive answered it already. because THEY ARE AN ESTABLISHED MAGAZINE WRITER! while you are just jimmy jack-off on his pc from home, people who work for magazines are out shooting, or interviewing, or reporting for something that is so much more pure and concentrated that the internet. the internet is vastly more popular than print magazines, but dont let that fool you into thinking people give a shit about the opinion of the blogger.
    2) print is less accessable, and more expensive. there is no sane person who would deny that. however, quality counts. you never see an army ad or ads on how to get a flat stomach in Dig or RideUK. you may pay 3 pounds or 5 dollars for a magazine, but that magazine is yours- you can read it on your lunch break, on the shitter, anywhere you like. it has interviews WORTH reading, instead of the garbage constantly posted on here from riders people don’t care about.

    this post makes me as bad as all the other idiots that will probably post on here, and i feel bad about that. but since adam22′s dogmatic opinion is SO wrong, i feel like i need to speak up about it.

  • http://wwwattheendoftheroad-schnell.blogspot.com/ Schnell

    I love Ride Uk but their captions seem to stir alot of drama. The whole UK Vs Tom White Vs The Big Four incident years back.

  • http://Website Johan

    I havent bought a bmx magazine or video in probably 10 years.

  • http://Website tomas

    but surely that is what makes riding so pure- filtering out all the dudes who dont deserve to have a magazine section or a video part so people can aspire to something rather than have some bog standard video they can talk shit about. i couldnt give a fuck about who is good at bmx and who isnt, but who would you rather read an interview of- sean burns or capone rider?

    also, in amgazines THERE IS NO CHRIS FUCKING DUNCAN ON EVERY FUCKING PAGE!!

  • http://Website rob

    get out of bmx. if you’re gonna visit a shitty site like this to let you govern your view on bmx, well, you simply arent a bmxer. sorry pal.

  • http://Website OMGitsryan!

    I enjoy this website, Unfortunatley I really dont have access to Print seeing as how the scene in my area isnt that hot and a lot of stores do not even carry ANY bmx magazines.

    I do agree that magazines provide focused concentrated BMX and the scene it has, although if it werent for blogs and websites like this I really dont think a lot of people would even be reading most of what those Mags have to say.

    People are poor right now and honestly if i was saving to buy a new set of pedals i wouldnt spend 5$ on a magazine that gets outdated in a months time anyways.

  • http://Website Rob MK2

    Magazines like Ride UK and Dig produce content in a well written and designed format with great photos. Blogs like this produce little to nothing of their own, merely capitalizing on content generated by others, sure I like checking this blog out, but its nowhere as good as a new copy of Dig. 30 years on I’d rather look back at a whole stack of magazines I published than a defunct BMX blog.

  • http://Website satans hemroid

    ^ rob doesn’t even ride, this site rules

    fuck paying for a tired old magazine when you get only the best news and junk here, AND much faster

    plus being able to use this media for things like web edits, industry beef, company changes… fucking beautiful!

    just like back in the day , bike shops hated everything about mail order… until the internet was way more common, then you saw a lot more shops looking into cyberspace for their future

    innovate or die!

    thanks to sites like defgrip and TCU i can be up to date instantly … i was in a book store last night actually thinking about how i shouldnt be buying these magazines anymore… about a month and it starts collecting dust. fuck having a corner in your apt that collects tired old print media

    innovate or die!

  • http://Website brah

    funny thing is i DO give a shit what adam has to say, as well as other bloggers like harrison and nuno at defgrip. and im fairly sure im not the only one in a gathering of a million TCU kids who cares and loves the come up for its originality. you can talk all the shit you want but the come up is still going to be here and adam is still going to be the man

  • http://Website jk

    ^ this.

    whatever anyone’s views on the come up, adam is 100% right on this one.

    an established magazine writer’s opinions are no more valid than anyone else’s opinions, not that there’s ever any actual opinion in the print mags.

    aside from the pictures, what reason would I have to buy ride uk? the content is nothing i can’t find on the internet for free, for the most part interviews with people i either know or don’t care about.

  • http://Website fasttimes

    1) the bmx mags have no way of keeping up to date news information. It will always be like that. there is no contention with the internet.
    2)Bmx mags havnt been running the most up to date photos like you can see on the internet. There are sites that post magazine quality images. Not only magazine quality but also sometimes tricks that have never been done before. If the magazines valued this content more then lets say a photo of someone doing an x up over a dirt jump they would have something over the internet.
    3) the bmx print industry should try to be more like the skate print industry. actually pay photographers a decent amount of money as incentive to get the photos that are gonna push people to want to look at magazines again.
    4) I think that sites like the comeup, streetphire,defgrip are pushing content and everything else in bmx and the magazines either dont know how to keep up or are just laying down and letting it happen. i think this point is noticeable to the bmx community which is also why print is dieing out in our industry

  • http://Website les Izmore.

    ADAM,
    Just out of Curiosity, and not saying one way or the other, but aside from generating traffic ( creating advertising value), and curating other BMX company news and or content , what do you offer in the way of contributing something tangible, and new to the BMX community? Like Credible, noteworthy original Content, promotions, events, etc…?
    _lester

  • http://Website UK HUMOR

    Anyone seen a trumpet? I heard it getting blown around here?

  • http://Website KRUD

    as a rider i would like to see better content in magazines. like the work of kyle emery peck

  • http://Website j

    What i hate the most is, and RIDEbmx is the worst about this i think, the amount of complete useless shit that is so outdated by the time you get it because of the internet. They have to spend so much time doing the damn news, sponsor changes, injuries etc…and for what? No one gives a shit, and if they did they would have found it on the internet 3 months ago. Spend that time more wisely. And every fucking year there is always interbike coverage….but for the most part no one cares, and if they do they found it out already. Magazines could be very useful if they adapted to the new era we live in. Information is now instant but what a good magazine should offer is timeless. I loved reading Ridebmx back in the day, but within the last 3 or 4 years i along with many other riders i know consider it by far the worst bmx magazine out, including Bmx plus!

  • http://Website Ross

    Alot of football fans don’t play football, but know a shite lot about the game…

    Personally I enjoy travelling to and from places with a hard copy of information in front of me. How many of you would actually just stop buying reading materials altogether and start reading books on the internet? Not alot i’d imagine (And a few posters who just don’t seem to be the reading type full stop).

    Fact is that newspapers still sell, yet most people reading them can get the news for free on the internet or even by just watching tv and that’s the way magazines are always going to be too.

    As someones mentioned it’s all turning into a hollyoaks style facade, fuck the dramatisation of it all, if you dont want to buy magazines then don’t, but there’ll always be a following out there that like having a hard copy placed in front of them.

  • http://Website jason

    2 reasons print is dead:

    1. it only covers largely sponsored events and or riders. nobody else even has a chance to get in print unless they have sponsors willing to pay the magazine to run a photo of them.. and yes thats how it works kids.

    2. anytime i read print for news, ive already read it last week on the internet. old news is old. same reason the newspaper is dead, cus we already read it the day before online.

  • http://Website snapout

    What is this shite!!! Adam you’re a fat goth, H man you’re a stiff twat. You have both done sweet fuck all for BMX. Best bmx site? on what planet you cock!!!!!! get a grip.. jessus christ, embarrassing.

  • http://Website Ross

    Snapout.. Englighten us all on what revolutionary things you have done for BMX.. or for anything for that matter apart from excesive punctuation and pointless dribble sliding down the back of your thighs from your worthless arse?

  • http://Website snapout

    I’ve done some things

  • http://Website Ross

    The spreading of stds to family members and keeping the crab population alive?

  • http://Website OMGitsryan!

    SNAP! ….get it? snap?…out…. sorry.

  • http://Website Ross

    Haha get back in your shell

  • http://Website Neil

    Ride UK has really became terrible recently. Why should we respect the magazine when it seems that they don’t even have a simple spell/grammar checker. Most blogs are actually better written than Ride UK is, especially since Mark Noble left. I still buy Dig as it’s generally well written and gets a sense of passion over. But Ride UK and Ride USA are terrible. Maybe they should look at themselves and their journalistic skills rather than hit out at people who are getting it right?

  • http://Website krud

    ride is like us magazine

  • http://Website UK

    How? h man no longer works at Seventies and his issue is with the magazine not 4down.

  • http://Website Jamie

    The Dig ‘trails issue’ was really cool.

  • http://Website LOL

    TCU just wouldn’t be the same without him

  • http://Website ride bikes

    people who bmx who never go on the internet to look at BMX or read about BMX are the realest BMXers. Everything about how they ride is their own

  • http://Website Name (required)

    here’s the plain facts of why print in BMX SUCKS these days.

    Ride BMX US is trying to be like Dig was in it’s glory days, but can’t come even close.

    Dig is just getting watered down since the head dudes have other commitments (cough Nike cough)

    Ride UK dumped the Noble Bros. Only good thing about Ride UK is Pieringer.

    All other magazines are specialized mags, so they really don’t have much point in bringing up in an argument.

  • http://Website Name (required)

    that’s about the only truly great dig issue that has come out recently. and why is that? oh shit, they got back to their roots.

  • http://Website Tom

    I enjoy going to the book store on a friday night and reading bmx magazines. I cant get myself to buy them tho.

  • http://Website My 2 cents

    I haven’t seen a copy of RIDE UK in years and didn’t even know they have a website until know and what is Streetphire? All the active “media” sites cover the same RSS bullshit so it’s easier to find that popular content plus the grom type stuff that Ride BMX, VITAL, FAT, DIG, etc won’t post on TCU instead of searching the multiple sites.
    If Adam actually spent some time or paid some freelancer contributorss for some real “TCU original” shit he’d have a much better site. Right now he’s just a leach sucking BMXs artery. Granted he was either smarter than we give him props for or just got really lucky with this site but he has definitely been an influence as to how BMX content is provided and viewed on the web. All of the other sites with roots in the print industry have followed his lead in providing content. Brad McDonald, the smartest guy in BMX publishing history, even took a lesson from some tatooed dude from New Hampshire on how to bring BMX information to the masses. Though he probably won’t admit it to save face and continue to sell banners to GT and other non-core brands.
    Let’s face it, BMX mag sales have dropped off over 60% from just 7 years ago and print mags are on their last leg as the web is more up to date, controversial and most of all FREE to the viewer. Look at this thread. You’re able to voice your opinion imediately to thousands of other riders, something you can’t do after you’ve looked at the latest issue of a magazine.
    We all know that the average rider is either a kid without a job or bum with no plans for his future. Granted there are exceptions to this stereotype but they fall into that minority that would purchase a magazine instead of just reading it at Barnes & Noble and then just putting it back on the shelf. This does no good for the advertisiers who want their ads to been seen and have an impact on the reader and their brand awareness. Without advertisers there is no way to pay for the travel, content or production of said media. The change you pay for the issue does not make a dent in the expenses to product a quality magazine. With increased production costs and declining ad revenue you’ll surely see a few magazines fall by the road soon in the next few years.

  • http://Website Oz

    “Brad McDonald, the smartest guy in BMX publishing history”

    Bob Osborne would like to have a word with you.

  • http://wwwattheendoftheroad-schnell.blogspot.com/ Schnell

    The thing is,Kids these days have the technology to actually use the come up as a magazine when they take a shit with the inventions of I-Phones and any other bullshit corny device that connects you to the internet when you not at home or at work.

  • http://Website Punter

    Printernet.

    Done.

    Next.

  • http://Website nikki

    I too am going to need a detailed explanation on how Brad McDonald is the smartest guy in BMX publishing history. Quite frankly RIDE has been a pile of crap since the first issue. But with our only other option at the time as BMXPLUS, anyone is going to look like a genius.

    Have you seen the shit content that RIDE pays fattony to create? which pro’s girlfriend is the hottest? All I have to say is “nigger please”. No one gives a shit about original content and the reason why is because with the internet there is no original content that can be produced and remain viable for more than 24 hours.

    Print is dying because the circulation and exposure for the largest number of advertisers isnt worth the astronomical prices that these magazines need to be able to survive. When you are an advertiser, you pay for you content, the more $$$ the more coverage, bottom line, its true and valid and cannot be disputed. So explain to me about original content again… wait, there is no such thing. Its biased 100% of the time, all of the magazines, hands down. When a “bro” mag like Dig comes out blazing in web and in print straight up basing an internet website for not liking one of their “bro” hook up friends company, well that pretty much speaks for itself, res ipsa loquitor, about the integrity of bmx journalism.

    do you want to know who the smartest guy in bmx journalism in the last 5 years is? your reading his fucking blog.

  • http://Website rootier

    sorry but rideuk shit the bed when grotbags left and then jeff stewert,every thing after that was shite,written by cock suckers promoting their own interests…

  • http://Website fasttimes

    i wonder if anyone from the magazines will read these posts and comments. even small sample of the bmx populations thoughts on the state of prin could maybe push them to do something about it or at least come up with some new ideas

  • http://www.ljhammond.com/cwgt/14.htm chilllllll back

    there are still many true bmxers interested in the essence of riding and i know a lot of riders who still buy magazines and most of them never use thecomeup or the internet at all. sadly they are mostly the older contingent of riders. maybe the decadence of sites like this forces magazines to change their content to cater to the younger breed of riders who are products of their degenerate society? I mean the world was very different before the internet became such a steady flow of re-fried horse shit, so much opinion based information with little attention to truth and facts has created a generation of ignorant and immature kids who don’t appreciate the miracle that is life. As natural processes are pushed aside more and more people become soulless heaps of skin and bones. I’m very disappointed to say that i belong to this generation and can only hope one day a hacker figures out how to eradicate this gross waste of energy because the good does not outweigh the bad by any margin.

  • http://Website Ross

    Well seeing as Robin has taken Hmans poll as a personal insult it seems he’d rather bitch on and have goes rather than listen to the readers/potential readers of the magazines, so i wouldnt hold out on any hope of new ideas, more like just trudge along the same lines and slag anyone else off that has an opinion.

  • http://Website joe

    I have two dig trails issues, it all ways get picked up of the coffee table when geusts are in the house

  • http://Website joe

    printernet! hhaha let me print out theco,eup and try and sell it haha

  • http://www.tom.com tom

    RIDEuk are a bunch of fascists anyway-
    When they say “you buy a magazine and you’re going to view high quality filtered BMX content” they mean you read their fascist opinion on what they percieve BMX to be about. Magazines have lost their influence, life moves on. Think theyre kidding themselves just trying to support magazines so some of thier friends can have a job.
    The interents crap too tho- no one comes here for opinions or facts- just the vids and products. blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah and the endless crap talking? blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah

  • http://dicks.com I bet you are from the UK

    Use your brain.

  • http://Website FTP

    H-Mans view is an immature one. Magazines, as part of a brand and business model will survive (when run well enough). Others will simply fade into the abyss, websites included.

    The internet doesn’t stand a chance of replacing print until mobile devices allow it to and if you think even when they do that you’ll still have all of this “Free” content in abundance then think again. With many major news paper across the globe getting ready to start charging subscriptions to access their online content, others will follow. Information isn’t free! Although some will tell you it is!

    Adam22 has a great thing going and many are attempting to copy it because they’ve no doubt heard he makes cash from it, but with all due respect, even though he seems to make a decent living from it but is it a ‘business’?

    TBH H-man sounds like the kinda guy who has started a shit storm without the knowledge to back it up.

    The cream of the content will rise to the top and you WILL pay for it, one way or another. The rest will survive on the shit that’s left.

  • http://Website lisa left eye lopes

    long live the interweb

  • http://Website Andrew

    ass kisser.

    The mags are an important part of the history but like every other magazine in the world these need to adapt to new media otherwise they are going to die out. Would be a shame if Dig and Ride Uk went the way of the dinosaur.

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  • http://Website My 2 cents

    Apparently you missed some of my sarcasm and no disrespect to Windy and RL’s father because I was there for Freestylin’ magazines debut issue. I wish Freestylin’ could make a comeback with Lewman, Spike Jonze and Andy.
    Brad McD was a visionary who took his passion of BMX(as did Oz) and his thirst for business knowledge and made something great come of it. McDonald created the most widely read and circulated BMX magazine yet to exist for our sport. After he grew it to print runs in excess of 100,000 copies earlier this decade he found a way to sell it off to Transworld Media/AOL/Time Warner for big bucks. Maybe you’ve heard of these big businesses? Did Bob Osborne do that. NOPE.
    The sale of the Ride BMX title has funded Vital from the beginning. Targeting clueless brands in BMX that will pay inflated prices for banner impressions on his site is more evidence of his business savvy. How many core riders have bought a GT from viewing a Dillewaard banner on Vital? None I’d say but Gt finds value because Brad is a sweettalker. If that isn’t smart you’d be hard pressed to tell me who is smarter. The only other person that has raped the sport of BMX for it’s money that can compare or exceed this foresight would be Dan Duckworth who sold his mail order company that was started out of the trunk of his car for an estimated 40 million dollars to a youth media marketing company that owned one of the largest skate mail order companys.
    Back to Brad. He knew print was losing ground and even when everyone knew the web was going to be big for BMX he denied its viability to save face for Ride before he made the sale. Now he disses the very industry(publishing) that has given him everything he has and uses it’s declining numbers to hype his current web based brand. Smart? YES. Backstabbing? YES.
    What happened to VitalSkate? The skate industry wouldn’t touch him but the fruity MTB industry will. Oh yeah, Brad’s about BMX. Nope, he’s about money. Nothing wrong with that though.

  • http://Website Ross

    FTP – Would you mind explaining exactly what was immature regarding Hmans poll?

    “Im trying to get a figure of how many magazines are still sold out there as people are always banging on about the magazine dying out and the internet being the way forward. It would be interesting to see what kind of figures of people still end up buying the mags.”

    I don’t see how that could be seen as immaturity, he’s curious regarding which magazines people are buying, or arent buying for that matter… If you don’t want to vote then you didnt have to, jog on.

  • http://Website jason

    pro-tip for those commenting: nobody reads comments over 5 lines, so dont waste your time writing a novel on here.

  • http://Website My 2 cents

    Jason, apparently some have a greater attention span than yourself. For those that do there novels, for the rest there are pictures.

  • http://Website Ross

    Would you like us to keep it down to three syllables for you too jason?

  • http://Website Alex

    so true about the CDC lol, but to be honest, id rather read an interview from lower level riders, i feel like they have more to say that can relate to us, most pro riders have been there done that, talk about their touring habits, what has been going on in their life and that hogwash
    id rather read about how someone is enjoying bmx, what their struggle is to become a better rider, their local area, and why they enjoy riding so much and not giving a fuck

  • http://Website jason

    just sayin… but ya 3 syllables per word from now on please.

  • http://Website fuck it!!!

    fuck it all! it does not mean shit, go ride and have fun.

  • http://Website FTP

    Ross – Maybe not ‘immature’… More ‘narrow minded’ in regards to the whole premise of the streetphire article. Namingly the quote below…

    “it started to become obvious a few years back that the change over from buying a magazine off the shelf to just loading up the site with the latest news had almost sealed the fate of the offline print market.”

    The whole internet = the end of the print market has been going on for as long as I can remember and with some 14 years in the media / print & web business this ‘takeover’ has yet to transpire.

  • http://Website bobandy

    thank you for mention jeff stewart, dude rules.

  • http://Website ????????

    Hman is Ross ???????????

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  • http://Website nikki

    Im calling bullshit.

    At first I thought maybe this was Brad’s wife or Mom standing up for him. But no. Brad never worked for Freestylin. He was the a contributing photographer at the earliest late in 1991, and he certainly didnt work there when the combo of Andy, Lew and Spike were there. You are wrong, face it. He only had the editors job when MikeD jumped ship for BMX Plus or where ever the hell he went. He fell assbackwards into that spot and was the only one left to try to carry on after it was all over.

    A name you should know and the guy to be credited with the longevity and stability of that mag, regardless of the spotty content over the years, Todd Toth, the Ad man the money man, success of a magazine is in the dollars generated on the ad side. Content is ancillary and secondary, go look those words up and check the by lines, Im right.

    fucking idiot.

  • http://Website James Brawn

    The internet islike a cheap box of wine, it gets the job done. Magazines are like a glass of quality whiskey, worth every sip.

  • http://20negative.com Bone

    Newspapers can try charging for news on the web, but people won’t pay for it. Half the population don’t even pay for their music.

  • http://20negative.com Bone

    Nothing wrong with the intent, but thinking the poll would give worthwhile results is fairly immature

  • http://Website moebius

    Haha. Adam actually thinks he puts out quality. That’s funny. Face it, people are here to watch videos you get off other sites and read the Illiterate comments of silly, homophobe kids that you systematically encourage. It’s not your “quality speaking for itself”, it’s pure voyerism to the amount of idiocity on the net.

  • http://wednesdayblog.co.uk Wednesday

    Do you mean “not everyone can write” not- “everyone can’t write”.
    Oh the irony…

  • http://Website tim to-can

    Print means hard work, photos, storys, trips……………..Adam Cuts and Pastes. End of story

  • http://Website Anonoo

    Who gives a shit about the media? I don’t. But since people like to slug their silly opinions around, let’s address some mute points that are obvious to any person with a trace of intelligence.

    1) “the bmx mags have no way of keeping up to date news information”
    What BMX magazine in their right mind would try to compete with the internet news? I don’t see it. Oh, wait every magazine has a news website (along with a lot of companies), which content is conveniently stolen by this one. Think about that…

    2)”Bmx mags haven’t been running the most up to date photos like you can see on the internet. There are sites that post magazine quality images.”
    I haven’t seen any good ones. Most riders I’ve heard about treat photos like video clips- web quality and print/ full-length section quality. And the dudes who have put in the work to get to where they are deserve that choice, and have made their priorities clear.

    3)” the bmx print industry should try to be more like the skate print industry. actually pay photographers a decent amount of money”
    Don’t you need advertisers to support that? Sounds like you should be talking to the BMX companies, not complaining on some random blog…

    4) “I think that sites … are pushing content and everything else in bmx”
    Sites have shit original content- any smart person who runs a website knows that fragments of information is what people’s minds are geared for when surfing the internet. A 4000 word internet interview doesn’t cut it, and isn’t worth the effort.

    1A)”it only covers largely sponsored events and or riders. nobody else even has a chance to get in print unless they have sponsors willing to pay the magazine to run a photo of them.” You obviously don’t read magazines…

    Enough said. This is a really pointless debate.

  • http://Website wow

    yes adam you win you are the smartest!!!

  • http://Website rob (not the other one)

    point 2 is definitely true, point 1 is very much false. it doesnt work like that at all- i know people who have had features in magazines, and it usually has nothing more than to do with their riding.

  • http://Website rinsed

    old DIG magazines with the staple bind (sp) where the most ultimate of fuckin magazines, not even knowing when or if the next issure would even come out..but when they dropped shit was fuckin sick. and someone needs to bomb ryhs mcfleece for working for a magazine.what a twat!

  • http://Website Check it out fellas.

    I agree with Adam on this point. BMX magazines are fucking terrible.

  • http://Website Jason

    It’s not reflective of anyone’s experience, because on the web, the good stuff floats to the top while the bad stuff sinks.

    That is NOT true. As any blogger knows, what you post will most likely disappear within a week.

  • http://Website devastator

    I hear where you’re coming from on the news issue. Is there any point really? I used to read all the random news about people i was never gonnna meet or give a shit about on the toilet seven years ago, but now? Its outdated and pointless. Why do magazines still follow the same set out of ads then news then shitty product reviews then interviews then photo sections? Wouldnt it be better to just have interviews and photo sections? Maybe video reviews because i still buy dvds and like reading well written reviews. id rather see lots more good photos than pictures of some pair of shit ass handlebars. That being said i like the way dig is moving towards this with their little dig this sections and stuff. Definitely the only magazine i still purchase religiously.
    Theres my shitty interent opinon. I didnt even proof read.
    ps fuck fat tony. i fucking hate that guy.

  • http://Website devastator

    yes! most memorable cover in years!

  • http://Website devastator

    Where the hell is that guy? His interviews and articles were the best shit i ever read in bmx. that gonz interview, dave mirra interview, austin article. Man that guy could hold my attention!

  • http://Website devastator

    what the fuck was that about exactly?