stupid

= scooter

G-A-F

Gay As Fuck!

haha. J-hops! I wonder where that term came from. Adam do some research. I’m sure they used it up in Thrashua

I would try a pair if I got them free.
Curbrider I sent you an email hook me up!

just go get a danm scooter.
that shit is ugly as fuck too.

no wonder there free.

completely defeats accelerating ever. besides, flatlanders have been doign this for years by bolting pegs thru. my buddy called them “Peggles” peg-pedals.

is this the thing that was on that flid bike you posted before?

Haha I recall using the term when I was a kid for sure.

I wouldn’t ride those if they came free with a fresh $20 bill in the box.

they’re perfect for dirt riders!

I’m going to put mine in a sock and beat someone with it, then throw them away

their perfect for dirt riders??? what the fuck all i ride is trails and i would never even think about riding them with this fucking rediculous piece of shit attatched to my bike

As I’m reading some of these comments, one thought comes to mind.

I’ve been riding bikes since 1981 (give or take). When I turned 15 (and looked like I was like 23…facial hair, what are you gonna do), there were no shortage of people telling me how stupid it was to ride “kids bikes”… how BMX Freestyle was a fad … how it was “gay” … how I should just play football, basketball, or baseball.

I used to tell them, “don’t knock it till you try it.”

Sincerely,

John Dale
RedEndo BMX
Curbrider LLC
Tucson, Arizona

fuck you guys i just sent an email and called and ill be gettin my pair real soon!! im so siked, no more running two left side crank arms and pedals with no pins left!!!!! john dale is the shit

i cant even imagine there are 50 people out their who would consider putting those things on, so after the freebies have been sent out the market will be a big fat 0

As I just read the comment above, one thought came to mind….

I’ve never tried murder before….but now i have a prime candidate! Thank you john dale for helping me be able to now know if i will enjoy murder or not! This is going to be awesome!

worst idea ever, I thought it was a joke at first. If nothing else it would look fucking ugly as sin trying to do tables and turndowns. If you cant pedal it aint a bike.

Well then Mr John Dale here is my challenge to you. Lets see a current video of you riding these bad boys. Put your money where your mouth is and lets see what you got

talk about sleepin adam, shit was on sprfls 2-3 weeks ago.

there wasn’t a post about them being given out for free. so suck a dick and eat some shit. and finger your own asshole and get raped by a large african american man. and then go read some more sprfls.

Not trying to be a smartass (that usually happens after my third pabst), but FWIW by weight my bike is 98% BMX and 2% scooter.

Our first proof of concept was flatland pegs through the b/b with a 14mm rear axle. It worked so good that we decided to step it up, do a real design, and adapt them to a profile spindle. The pegs hurt my feet quickly, so I commissioned a welded version that was more platform-like…but that shit weighed like 10lbs. Still, though, it was soo good. When I got our first rideble version off the injection molder I was extremely stoked. Took a ton of weight off my bike, gave me more control, and reduced probability for injury (had a sinner lately?).

But yeah, the pegs through the b/b was definitely the first version.

Sincerely,

John Dale
Curbrider LLC
RedEndo BMX
Tucson, Arizona

That’s classic, dude … laughed my ass off.

John Dale
Curbrider LLC
RedEndo BMX
Tucson, Arizona

We’re compiling clips now. If I have anything good enough to make it in, then you’ll get your wish. If not, you’ll have to settle for Joey and Andrew shredding them.

Sincerely,

John Dale
RedEndo BMX
Curbrider LLC
Tucson, Arizona

Thanks for the feedback … I’m guessing you would never step out onto a dance floor either. Am I right?

Sincerely,

John Dale
RedEndo BMX
Curbrider LLC
Tucson, Arizona

Is this shit real?

Word…see “Dew Tour”. Not much pedaling going-on there! With a good set and a roll-in, Flow Pedals are perfect.

Sincerely,

John

You’re in (barely .

Sincerely,

John Dale
RedEndo BMX
Curbrider LLC
Tucson, Arizona

Having ridden for a little longer than John Dale–since 1978–I am old an fusty and confused. I’m really not getting these things…seems like not having a forward/backward foot would screw up your flow in a park, not augment it. Also, I’m confused as to why the video was so focused on the drawbacks of having to work on one’s bike all the time, or why someone would let that girl hammer the shit out of a decent pair of cranks. Profile makes a perfectly useable crank tool to hammer on. I also find 48 spline a bit of a pain, so I solved it easily by using Primo cranks.

I’m too old to call the man names–at least he was motivated to do something. The scooter-ization of BMX is disturbing, though. It’s only a matter of time until someone hooks these up to a brakeless Killorado, and then I ask you: What is the functional difference between that and a scooter?

Yup…see below (by weight, 98% BMX and 2% scooter).

Sincerely,

John Dale
RedEndo BMX
Curbrider LLC

Word, brother! Thanks for the support and enjoy your pedals!

Sincerely,

John Dale
RedEndo BMX
Curbrider LLC
Tucson, Arizona

Dont knock sucking dick till you try it either..

FWIW, we’ve had 63 requests so far, and we’re going to honor all those requests. We still have a couple more sets if anyone is interested.

For those that don’t make it in, we’re willing to offer a kind discount on the production version. WTF, send us your info, anyway!

Sincerely,

John Dale
RedEndo BMX
Curbrider LLC
Tucson, Arizona

“Flow pedals stabilize the bottom bracket”

WTf is that even meant to mean, i think my bottom braken is perfectly “stable” as it is thank you very much. Could someone actually give me one good reason to buy these over normal pedals. until then id rather stick them up my ass.

cheers.

im down to test them out!. i will write a review if i get a pair. i emailed you, hopefully i get them

stupid

i’m sure that these things are gonna work like a dream for for turndowns and tables…
they already invented a bike without a drivetrain, it’s called a scooter.

http://www.redendo.com/loadoriginalimage.redirbruc?documentId=fa4a94d8-7f00-0001-01c6-6ec77b9a5d6e&messageId=fa35ef30-7f00-0001-01c6-6ec7bfc35453

so what exactly are you doing here Mr Dale?

i’d definatly give em a shot, as long as they dont kill me! i’d try em out but i dont think id put any money towards em till i hear some feed back and use them myself! but props for innovation!

I think this is great feedback. Thank you.

“seems like not having a forward/backward foot would screw up your flow in a park, not augment it.”

When riding through a transition, offset feet generate an uneven torque that is dangerous and difficult to compensate for. It takes years to develop an asymmetric musculature to compensate for it. Stephen Murray’s crash was caused when “…his left foot slipped off the pedal about 30 feet in the air, causing his weight to shift violently.”(http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/07/11/AR2008071102842_2.html) Over time this offset torque causes uneven wear in the human physiology (especially for riders with good flow who rarely pedal). Our product encourages symmetric muscle/skeletal development, something that will pay dividends into your fifties, brother.

“why someone would let that girl hammer the shit out of a decent pair of cranks”
Personally, I would let Jordann hammer the shit out of whatever she wanted. But the point of that video was that the drive train takes the most abuse of any other part on the bike, and requires the most maintenance. Some people like riding more than working on their bikes. Our setup takes far less maintenance, making more time for riding. It’s also about 1/5 the price of the higher-end drive trains.

“What is the functional difference between that and a scooter…”
Sorry to answer a question with a question, but why is it important to divide riders based on choice of transportation? FWIW, the Curbrider logo addresses that very issue. It doesn’t matter what you ride, when, where, or how big your wheels are. Just have fun.

Sincerely,

John Dale
Curbrider LLC
RedEndo BMX

Think about the last time you got a nasty shinner.

That was caused when one foot slipped off the pedal, and the other foot spun back and drove the pedal into your bones and flesh.

Popping-off with a standard bottom bracket is like trying to jump on a waterbed…the thing is moving underneath you. Our product is more like jumping off a stiff trampoline. You get way higher with way less effort.

Of course, if you got no flow all bets are off.

Sincerely,

John

You are wise, and Thanks!

Sincerely,

John Dale
RedEndo BMX
Curbrider LLC
Tucson, Arizona

Thanks…we’ve had an unbelievable response. We’ll do our best to accommodate everyone.

Sincerely,

John Dale
RedEndo BMX
Curbrider LLC
Tucson, Arizona

Here’s my bike check.

Ain’t no scooter going to feel like it.

http://www.redendo.com/readmessage/418d1568-7f00-0001-0088-09ce1ed344b7

Sincerely,

John Dale
RedEndo BMX
Curbrider LLC
Tucson, Arizona

i rode chainless for like 6 months and had to bike all around the city.
it was the worlds worst shit
it would be even worse with these
i like bicycles thus i couldnt use these

That post from Duncan was one of the best things I’ve ever read.

Getting hurt(shinners) riding your bike is no reason to modify it to the point that it doesn’t work. Why not throw a damn engine on there while your at it so we can be more like a sport that isn’t ours.

Please don’t bastardize BMX more than it already is by calling this a pedal. Pedaling takes some physical effort. This is a scooter product.

Don’t give a fuck about all this “it’s a scooter whinging” – so?
Who gives a fuck what you call it – it looks like a fun thing to try out.
For gawds sake calm down kiddies. Theres really more important things to get wound up about than recreational sports fads/innovations/products.
For faaarrrcks sake!
That said…doesn’t it knock your balance out having your feet next too each other (it’s much easier to be knocked over/harder to keep your balance – when your feet are together)
Also won’t it mean you stand much taller on the bike?
Definately be interested to try a pair though…

I get more winded pumping around the skate park and track than if I had a drive train. As far as whether it ‘works’, that’s relative.

It works for me!

Sincerely,

John Dale
RedEndo BMX
Curbrider LLC

I did stand up a bit more on my bike the first time I tried it, but compensated by bending me knees more. Bending my knees was more feasible since they were bending symmetrically (as the body is intended to work, IMO).

As far as “knocking balance out”, hey – if it works for motorcycles, it’s good enough for me!

Now, go watch “On Any Sunday” and feel all warm and fuzzy about being on two wheels.

Thanks for the great feedback.

Sincerely,

John Dale
RedEndo BMX
Curbrider LLC
Tucson, Arizona

i want these but it seems like theres been alot of requests, i emailed anyway

Good deal…even if we run out of prototypes we’ll still be sending out a token of our appreciation. Thanks Chris.

Sincerely,

John Dale
RedEndo BMX
Curbrider LLC
Tucson, Arizona

Please ban this guys IP he is abusing the sanctity of these comment boards. There is no reason to argue with him, nobody will ever pay for these so just wait til the free pairs he gives away to get thrown away and it will all be over.

Ben Davis
GayArea BMX
Grulch Gulch
San Rafael, California

all i have to say is that your making bmx riding VERY VERY one dimensional with these think of how much shit you couldnt ride with these like spots on inclines or bank to walls.. you couldnt cruise the city with your friends with regular bikes or run from the police which is what BMX is all about.. look if youve still got any i will throw them on a spare frame i have and i will be 100% open minded and if they dont bend or break i will fully support you guys and tell all my buddies and post your link under my come up board name and the whole 9 yards.. im down to try it if youve got any more.. email me: yopeteypabsyo@aol.com

I sent my email when I first saw i on ridebmx.com and it only had 40 views so I hope i get my pair!

that was the best comment ever hahahaha

i sent an email probbaly 35 seconds after this was posted but didnt get one back…

its just kind of bizzare- if it aint broke dont fix it cuz,, i cant imagine rollin on these at all- no chain and no propulsion makes for less fun,, dont get me wrong i love pumpin around, its just not necessary to take it that far haha

Dude you can’t be both sides of the comments, John. I can tell you are posing as someone else and standing up for your product. I told you they were lame, I told you kids would hate on you, but did you listen, no. You will be a fart in the wind soon, thanks for giving my city a shitty name.
Mike Hines
clickedbmx.com
crazy kook town, USA

it doesnt matter if its light or not… i started on a 36lbs tank. i made due. trails?? what the fuck are you talking about even dew tour pros land low sometimes and if you cant take a crank your shit out of luck with the next set. gaytarded.

can anyone say BULLETBALL

Holy fucking gay. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YB87sBlcMpk&feature=channel_page

Oh… man. I can’t stop watching these. They’re fucking awful. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZS4B4v18EJs&feature=channel_page and http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hlhdviOzzfY&feature=channel_page

i would give some one $100 if they could get through our trails in five tries with these on their bikes, i dont no about you but heading towards a set of 8 7ft high jumps that have little to no stopping room with out the ability to gain momentum would scare the crap out of me… and the day i see a killorado with these things, two front wheels and no brakes will be fucking funny

Good luck with this idea Mr.john dale

Dear John Dale,

This whole ‘invention’ and marketing of said invention is sadly based on a deep personal insecurity of yours.

The reason why no-one has considered making such a device for ramp riding / street / trails is that it’s completely pointless.

Stance is EVERYTHING in BMX, it’s there for a reason and it’s what enables a powerful pump. With a centralized stance, there is no stability, and the ‘loop out’ factor is high. Granted you can pump to an extent, but control over this pump is greatly limited. You’d have to have the balance of Chase Gouin to even manual these things for a sensible distance.

Anyone can have issues with their own personal outlook on life, or progress within riding BMX bikes etc etc….. so an insecurity develops within the mind because of these issues.

This insecurity would cause one to attempt to alter a major element within BMX in order for it to suit oneself. In this case it’s developing this terrible device and destroying 90% of what’s wonderful about the design / feel of a BMX bike, or bike in general.

Anyone can develop a de-evolutionary and pointless product and hide it under the guise of innovation. Sadly, it’s all too transparent, there’s no innovation here, just a person trying to be something they’re not.

Anyone can find a couple of random BMX riders to be on your team, that doesn’t mean anything. Try finding a rider who actually loves BMX supporting this idea. Eh… you will not be able to.

Lets no even get into your ‘chick’ marketing video… we get it, you’re straight, OK OK…… but, like I said, anyone can find a ‘random average person’ with no connection to BMX to help demolish your deep routed insecurity.

This product couldn’t be further removed from innovative if it tried.

No connection can be made between this device and riding chainless for example, it’s not even comparable. One is respectable (which is subjective) and one clearly isn’t (dead duck)

Someone just needs to start being honest with themselves, look in the mirror and call out what you don’t like about yourself. Work on real issues, don’t put energy into a completely pointless idea that just makes you look silly.

I’d love to see YOUR own personal riding clips…. I think that would answer a lot of questions, step up to the challenge dude. No doubt you’ll have an excuse or be injured or something.

Regards,

Michael Venian
(who actually rides)

SHUTDOWN!

To right thats a shut down!

Fuck off and keep it in Phoenix, Arizona USA. I really hope this is not for real and some sad twat put money into this as it make a bike into nothing more then a scoter with a bmx frame.

I gotta be honest, this is basically going along with what Taj pointed out, that BMX is going to turn into a scooter if trends continue the path they are currently on.

My question is why, Mr. Dale, do you find it ok to insult those who criticize your product? You really aren’t winning anyone over by doing so. If anything, it makes me want to try this even less. Perhaps some people skills are something you should develop before you continue with turning BMX into something it isn’t. If you really want your feet side by side, that’s all you, but learn to take criticism with a grain of salt.

You say “why is it important to divide riders based on choice of transportation?” Well Mr. Dale, if we continue to turn everything into the same item, we will have no diversity, making everyone the same. You seem very “anit-diversity,” which makes me think of you as the Hitler of BMX. Is your next product a skateboard with handlebars?

congratulations john nice job!
you had an exelent idea.
i like thats pedals.

except for every scooter i have ever rode would feel like your bike. your a nin-com-poop.

see….”my ass” because those things look very similar to the shit that comes out of my anus every day.

think about the last time you got a shinner. it was because you sucked at riding bikes. the pain was so intense for you that you decided you couldnt ride your bike like everybody else. and then you decided to invent the butt plugg/pump bike combo set.

i cant believe you are even going to try to justify that steven murray, a very iconic and skill bicycle rider, is now paralyzed because he was riding normal cranks and not your pump shit. that is a bold statement to make mr. john dale of redendo bmx. accidents happen. and unfortunately sometime bad accidents happen to good people.

Main Entry:
1bi·cy·cle Listen to the pronunciation of 1bicycle
Pronunciation:
\ˈbī-si-kəl, -ˌsi- also -ˌsī-\
Function:
noun
Etymology:
French, from bi- + -cycle (as in tricycle)
Date:
1863

: a vehicle with two wheels tandem, handlebars for steering, a saddle seat, and pedals by which it is propelled.

here is some more great feedback for you. a bicycle requires pedals to propel it. by taking away the drive train of a bicycle you are taking away its soul. its essence. its purpose by which it lives. open up a scooter store.

of course you have a unbelieveable response. you are giving shit out for free to kids. are these same kids going to pay for shipping? most likely not. so my question for you, john dale of redendo bmx and curbrider llc from tuscon arizona, are you that rich that you can cover the shipping costs of these atrocities to all 50 of your first emails? thats probably close to around $500 shipping which leads me to think that you must be a rich man. actually, the whole situation leads me to believe that you are a very rich man with very obscure ideas of how a bicycle can work.

sounds to me like you smoked a bit too much of that wacky tobacy and thought your idea was going to change bmx forever! turns out you came out with a product that is so asinine that you quite literally can not even give your product away. that brings a smile to my face.

No chain, No cranks, NO fun!!

Jon please go away your degree is not gonna make u money in BMX!

“When riding through a transition, offset feet generate an uneven torque that is dangerous and difficult to compensate for. It takes years to develop an asymmetric musculature to compensate for it”.

Look at these big scientific words “asymmetric musculature”… it takes awhile for kids to develop skill and muscle in order to walk properly, and walking can be dangerous, i mean, we have all tripped and fallen at one time or another. Therefore, we should prevent our kids, and thus ourselves from the hazards of walking and buy Segways, get the fuck outta here. Stop trying to re-invent the wheel, or this case, the cranks.

Nobody is asking for a full length video pertaining to this atrocity towards BMX, hell, we will all settle for a few clips. Lets see you drop in, and “flow” around on these.

You can still get a shinner on these, the only difference is, the crank arm wont spin around, rather, your shin will simply slide down the pedal. I dont know about you, but ive had some pretty nasty shinners in my day and never once was it half as bad as your depiction, and never once did i think “damn shinners, im just gonna take my pedals and cranks off all together”.

This is riding a dirtbike without a motor. Analogous to jerking off without the reward at the end. WHATS THE POINT. Your video of the girl bashing the shit out of cranks is not convincing, when your pitching an idea for people to buy, they want to see the product in action. Not all the potential worst case scenarios that would lead you to buy these things.

whats next, 1 piece seatpost dildos? fuckin gay product by fuckin fucks

This is the same guy who rides razor scooters and the park ! I wonder how many names you are posting under ?

this is old news. i did that shit years ago.

Mike,

I have almost 200 emails in my in-box suggesting otherwise. One is from YOU requesting a pair of Flow Pedals! Thanks for making my morning, LOL.

I’m calling bull-shit on this one.

Sincerely,

John Dale
RedEndo BMX
Curbrider LLC
Tucson, Arizona

I only post under my name. I sign all my posts on every site I post on. Always have, always will.

Sincerely,

John Dale
RedEndo BMX
Curbrider LLC
Tucson, Arizona

I’ve spend hundreds of hours in Arizona skate parks and sidewalks in the last 2 years. I have yet to get a single shinner on Flow Pedals.

I’ve had a couple of small knicks, but no crazy gushing digs like I’ve had in the past. It’s easy to get away from the bike when you need to.

Sincerely,

John Dale
RedEndo BMX
Curbrider LLC
Tucson, Arizona

If I “drop in and flow on these” are you in for a pair?

Heck, that’s easy.

Joey will be in town soon. Andrew is coming up. I’m getting some stuff down. Hopefully Adam will be willing to post our video.

Looking forward to it!

I have to warn you, though, I’m no Johnny Harnish.

Sincerely,

John Dale
RedEndo BMX
Curbrider LLC
Tucson, Arizona

Gracias, wey!

Hope to make it back to MX soon, once the violence subsides.

Sincerely,

John Dale
Curbrider LLC
RedEndo BMX
Tucson, Arizona

I loved Taj’s piece! He was also writing all that tongue-in-cheek. I think Taj (maybe most of all) appreciates BMX progression in technology.

What if Taj had never tried anything new?

“Hitler of BMX” – I’m speechless.

If you read every post on this page, there is some great feedback, but mostly insults directed at me. I’ve done my level best to address everyone’s comments, and hope that I haven’t insulted anyone.

Ok, so I may have gone overboard with the “dance” comment.

Sincerely,

John Dale
RedEndo BMX
Curbrider LLC
Tucson, Arizona

Hi Michael,

Thanks for the feedback! This is excellent! Although, I think there are some facts-of-the-matter than I should address in defense of Flow Pedals.

Johnny Stevens lands tail whips with a centralized stance. A centralized stance requires some brain and muscle retraining. That said, there is no question that the rider can generate more upward force from a Flow Pedal bottom bracket. It’s easier to dial-in the pump, which means you go faaaaast.

Our testing indicates that looping-out is far more rare with Flow Pedals.

I’m no Chase, but manuals with Flow Pedals are a tad harder than dork wheelies, and a ton easier than with an offset stance. On a traditional bottom bracket, most of your weight is on your back leg with the front leg kind of hanging-out-gimpy. Granted, you can’t bitch crank with Flow Pedals.

Joey Hrding has been an associate for over a year. He’s been on a BMX bike since he was 7. He’s an unbelievable talent and if all goes well he’ll be at Woodward West this Summer and who knows what after that. He rides everything every day very well.

Flow Pedals, by definition, are chain-less. Not sure what else to say on that one.

I don’t like crashing, so I suppose that’s an insecurity. I don’t like hospitals or heavy bikes, either. I like the purity of motion of flowing/pumping on the track or in a park (always have). I found myself intentionally not pedaling even with a drive-train because I felt like that was the way BMX Freestyle was meant to be ridden. Mike Aitken is unbelievable at flow.

FWIW, putting-out a new, innovative product knowing I’d take a beating from people who don’t get the concept is exactly the opposite of insecure.

Sincerely,

John Dale
RedEndo BMX
Curbrider LLC
Tucson, Arizona

if people havent even tried them,, then they have no say in how they feel. ive tried them, and personally i dont like them,, but they are fun when you get bored.

Excellent feedback…thanks!

FWIW like tattoos, they aren’t for everyone.

Sincerely,

John Dale
RedEndo BMX
Curbrider LLC
Tucson, Arizona

Call bull shit to my face

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lol i live in tucson, i could drive there haha

Please use your time to make something that benefits the BMX world. This is pointless. What happened to riding fast?

The fastest riders know how to flow. They ride the fastest because they flow.

Sincerely,

John Dale
RedEndo BMX
Curbrider LLC
Tucson, Arizona

GTFO

What the fuck are these things? If your going to try to sell a product maybe you should make a little effort to explain what the fuck it is. Or post a picture that shows how it works.

the fastest riders are fast because they can pedal…

yeah, I agree

wow so you’d rather ride an over sized scooter than a bmx…

this zealous, unnecessary innovation seems to predict the fall of bmx in the next years – have we forgotten ’93, when bmx died?

on second thought, this is just so useless it won’t even have a mild impact on bmx.

thats not a bike anymore, thats a hobbyhorse, the original hobbyhorses were made out of wood had no pedals and you had walk sitting down

You and I came to the same conclusion. If only they had skateparks back then it might have taken off!

http://www.redendo.com/readmessage/99021086-7f00-0001-006b-51d8b22c154d

Sincerely,

John Dale
RedEndo BMX
Curbrider LLC
Tucson, Arizona

dude looks like a lady

Hobby Horsin? You know why the skatepark laws are the way they are? It was back in the late 80′s /early 90′s that all the classics got dozed over law suits – Del Mar, Uplands etc. There ensued a long legal battle that bmx was not a part of, skaters are why you have a new skatepark on your block! They fought the battle and won while we were sittting around talking about them. Pretty sure they never said anything about us otherwise this would not be an issue. Sorry guys but it’s your own fault

I used to live in Tucson and I have met the Redendo guy. He is way creepy, he invites very young riders on roadtrips to other cities. He is super shady and promotes worthless crap. He tries to help bikes into parks but is a worthless joke. Holy shit is he creepy though.

Hi Ryan,

What you’ve posted is really, really shady.

At the request of these riders and their parents, I arranged a road trip to Chandler, Arizona and Mesa, Arizona. It was a great time and here are the pictures. Although you’ve done your best to make something out of this, nothing to see here folks. Time to move on.

http://www.redendo.com/readmessage/105b1381-d1b5-7af2-00ee-5d1366e51eab

I promote Curbrider, S&M, Fit, Metal, FBM, Profile and other American companies. I’ll let them know you think their products are worthless crap.

Here’s a short list of “RedEndo Firsts” including a brief introduction to the work we do to get bikes into Parks. I’ve written hundreds of messages to, and have had dozens of meeting with public officials regarding this issue.

http://www.redendo.com/readmessage/608baa46-7f00-0001-0162-522b2f9bd563

But then, never let the facts get in the way of a good story.

Shady indeed…

Sincerely,

John Dale
RedEndo BMX
Curbrider LLC
Tucson, Arizona

If only skate park builders hadn’t used MY TAX DOLLARS to build these facilities!

Keeping BMX bikes out of skate parks is like saying you can only play on the tennis courts with Nikes.

Sincerely,

John Dale
RedEndo BMX
Curbrider LLC
Tucson, Arizona

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most bad ass part of bmx is the chain

with all the getting lighter, thinner, steeper and stuff the most riders have probably gotten to the conclusion (i hope) that were riding in the wrong direction… riding big ass scooters.
one can do quite cool stuff with a scooter… barspins, quadwhips flat and like everything one can do on a bike. just 10 times easier to learn and to do. so why not just ride scooter or turn your bike into an oversized scooter. BECAUSE ITS NOT BMX!

dear john.
go suck dick.

Wow that chick has serious anger issues wtf is she actually doing she jus beating the crank arm i feel sory for the fella she f**ks

What a horrible website, idea, and look. Stop.

really, really gay product.

John Dale is a joke. His website is a joke. His products are a joke. Just laugh at it like you’re supposed to.

I have to say that The Internet is full of hate and vitriol. Stay tuned, kids – we’ve worked-out all the kinks in our product, and are planning another special offer! Hang loose as we continue to share our vision for a really fun version of BMX!

Sincerely,

John Dale
RedEndo BMX
Curbrider LLC
Tucson, Arizona

I’m doing a slider…

Flow Pedals are GREAT! We just launched a new site, too…check out some of the pictures and video!

John Dale

Cool, man! I’m glad to hear you’re into it, too! Skating is all about Flow, and so is BMX! Seriously, the drive train only makes it harder to learn stuff, more dangerous, and takes more time to maintain! If you’re into freestyle, Flow Pedals are a superior product. If you have to get from point a to point b, drive train is the way to go.

Flow Pedals bolt to a spindle, so you can switch back and forth. They’re great for tramp bikes and foam pits, the track, or any setup that has flow.

John

Yeah right…I broke one the other day and it sent me out into traffic.

Flow Pedals are the BOMB!

John

As much as this sport has grown it’s interesting how it has stayed the same in some respects. I have been doing this shit for 20 plus years now. Maybe my problem is I don’t conform to the norm.

But I do remember putting pegs and rotors on my bike for the first time and people saying how “fucking stupid” it all was. How doing a tailwhip footplant off of a bank to fence was “gay” That bike riding “wasn’t even a sport” And anyone who was truely a bike rider in the late 80′s and early 90′s knows exactly what I am talking about. 9 out of 10 people hated it. Including its own riders. But it stuck around. But I digress…

I have tried these flow pedals for several months now so I do know what I am talking about here. I doubt many other people have done that but still think they know how good or bad they are. Ya, at first I kind of thought what the fuck am I going to do with these? But I am also smart enough to know a change needs to be made to the sport as well. So I did what I do best, I rode. This what I do like about them. They draw a clear line between poser and rider. No poser will ever touch these fucking things because it exposes them for what they really are and I love that. It’s about time.

So I can’t pedal… big fucking deal. I am in it for the sport, not the pedaling. I know 9 out of 10 riders are going to hate these now. But in a few years when you are married and overweight with kids I can laugh. Because your kids are going to want them and it will burn you up. There are not many of us out there but real riders live to change things and move it forward. And I am happy to have finally discarded my final piece of the “training wheels”, the cranks.

what if the fastest rider is trying to go up a slight incline? or gain enough speed to grind up a rail from a sidewalk? hmmm? lets just flow the sidewalk cracks…

Merriam Webster defines a “bicycle” as: a vehicle with two wheels tandem, handlebars for steering, a saddle seat, and pedals by which it is propelled.

So IMO, marketing this as a BMX (Bicycle Motocross) product should pretty much qualify as false advertising. This is no longer a bicycle when you remove the cranks, it’s a scooter. Perhaps marketing them as a bicycle to scooter conversion kit would be more accurate.

The problem I see with these, is that they effectively lock you into being a park rider, or a roll-in rider. I actually have a bicycle. I have a seat that I can sit on, and I can pedal while doing so. I have brakes to stop me when I’m riding around town. I have pedals to accelerate and go places faster than I can simply push myself with my feet. If I wanted to push myself, have no seat to sit on, and no brakes to stop with I’d pick up a Razor and have at it. But a Bicycle should be able to transport you effectively around town, should be able to get you up a hill, should be able to take your ass to the skatepark, around town, to the grocery store, and back.

I have no problem w/ flatlanders using this kind of stuff if they so desire, and everyone’s allowed to use whatever they want on their own bikes… but this isn’t BMX and if you put these on your bike, don’t claim to ride a bike, call it a scooter since that’s what it is.

… if people buy these to avoid shin bites then why not spend a tiny bit of money, buy some shin guards, and still ride a bike?

matt hoffman put an engine on his bike to get more speed for big air.