0:44 in is crucial.

its so sad that people can’t realize that religion is nothing but excuses and baggage.

You do know you live in america right? Our country is a fucking joke, we care more about the right to own guns intended to kill massive amounts of people then we do about human rights. We care more about making greedy corporations pay higher taxes then we do about using correctly allocated tax payer money to fix our school system.

Our country is full of christian fanatics that rather destroy america then let people have the right to be free to marry who they love.

America is not as free as fox news would like us to think.

That was ridiculous. Adam should be allowed to marry just like the rest of us! Just kidding, dude.

would fuck 0:33

lolololing my way to the bank with this comment

i sent them an email of what i had to think about them.

adam mo

half the dudes in that were obviously homo

BAHH don’t listen to this propaganda.

Obama is secretly raising your taxes to fund an underground muslim terrorist group hell bent on taking over america.

Gay marriage is just a distraction.

Plus did you know obama is the real life antichrist?

WATCH FOX NEWS

Truth

its pretty sad that people are so stupid, and that they dedicate their lives so shit thats just doing absolutely nothing for anyone. its too bad these people couldn;t put their dedication towards something that would actually help the country out, instead of them just thinking too much about things that don’t even bother them.

def agree with 2nd post.

i think all gays should be crucify upside-down an burned alive

This best part about this was the out-takes that surface with all of these actors trying out for the various roles they pretend to play. All of the actors read the lines for all of the roles as if its not obvious they aren’t who they say they are. Unfortunately, a few days after the clips surface on YouTube the groups got them pulled for copyright infringement. Shit was so funny.

Gays and Lesbians have a right to live as they choose, they don’t have the right to redefine marriage for all of us.

ignorance

Here are the outakes. Enjoy!

http://videogum.com/archives/backlashes/a-rainbow-coalition-of-terribl_063201.html

Substitute “gays and lesbians” with “blacks” and see where this argument gets you.

Bans on interracial marriage were about keeping two races apart so that one race could oppress the other. Marriage is about bringing two sexes together, so that children get the love of their own mom and a dad, and women don’t get stuck with the enormous disadvantages of parenting alone.” “Having a parent of two different races is just not the same as being deprived of your mother—or your father.

Cite statistics that prove that being raised by two men or two women is inherently bad for a child, or you lose this round. And you’re nuts if you think this has anything to do with children. It has to do with Christianity, intolerance and the belief that the government has any business meddling in what people do with their private lives. If gays were allowed to be married but weren’t allowed to adopt do you think the morons in this video would just let it go and let them get married? Of course not, because that has nothing to do with it.

dicks are for chicks.

yo nigga on the real though everyone is frontin like this is going to shake the foundation of marriage. well LAWL that off and wake up. Free sexual identity of 60s and 70s shook it to it’s core already. Out of Wedlock births are at an all time high right alongside divorce rates. The only thing Gay marriage can do is put strength back into it. I mean hate a gay if you want but don’t hate a gay’s right. You got this nigger Van like “ya dude two dads = not tight” but I guess just a single parent is better than that right? You’re acting like a male and female set up is perfect and that they’ll never leave eachother. The opposite couldnt be more true though. You look into same sex parents and they’re likely hood to remain together soars among heterosexual couples. Also the fact that for them to have a kid they TRULY MUST WANT ONE. God damn Van I don’t even want to have a civil argument about this because I can’t even respect you.

diezzzz

Two men might each be a good father, but neither can be a mom. The ideal for children is the love of their own mom and dad. No same-sex couple can provide that. \

“that the government has any business meddling in what people do with their private lives.”

Is that a joke? Do you understand how highly impacted your “private” life is by the government at this very moment? Do you understand politics in the least? You flaunt your support of Obama (a liberal), but then complain that the government interferes in gays lives. Liberals are notorious for wanting a government that is involved in your “private” life.

Did I not say “Marriage is about bringing two sexes together, so that children get the love of their own mom and a dad, and women don’t get stuck with the enormous disadvantages of parenting alone.”? Where did I say gays should be able to get married, and not adopt children? I didn’t, because I don’t support SSM in the least.

If you’re going to say marriage is so weak with heterosexual couples, why not work to strengthen the institution of marriage? Instead, you think that we should completely reject and redefine the concept of marriage.

And please before you come back at me with other racial slurs, think; does that not make you a hypocrite? You criticize me for not accepting SSM, but then promote racism, something Adam directly compared SSM to.

its just purely unnatural. go VAN

nah nigga see I’m above your feeble minded view of reality and I actually understand that the word nigga is… a word! Feel me niggaaaaaaaaa??? But I can feel you getting upset with me saying that and all. I mean shit if you had it your way you’d stop me from marrying certain people AND SAYING CERTAIN WORDS. hahaha twerp

im not picking sides but chances are there is no such thing as a god which is why we should not let religion dictate political decisions

are you done speaking jibberish?

dumb niggers

I hear that. Plus PawelB “purely unnatural” is a constraint constructed by your society’s norms. Think outside the bun, or in this case inside the buns

I care about this almost as much as food network’s midday programming schedule

i sucked a dick like 5 minutes ago

so your admitting your a mo? van stop you from marrying certain people? well those people are dudes, because of SSM being wrong. Way to come out on the come up! Fag! Go suck a dick!

gay marriage isn’t is only going to be excepted by more and more people as time goes on. Stop trying to make other people lives shit and enjoy yours!

^^Jibberish eh? Sounds like van knows something…you just cant stand the fact that he is mainly right! Everyone doesnt realize that if this shit goes down…your gonna be riding with fags soon. Little kids rased by dudes will be asking for a bike because they want to get into riding, but ultimately their mo parents will support it because of them hanging out with the same sex. And then ultimately…BMX will turn into something gay because the ones that support dudes on dudes will like it when they are grabbing your ass like in the sports where dudes play with balls.

the storm is coming!!

That add was fucking disqusting. Van……fuck your just an idiot.

2 dicks dont make a kid. 2 vags dont make a kid. my arguement is over.

haha another controversy/online arguement that goes no where.

people are people, we were made to attract to the opposite sex, but we were also made to make decisions on what we want to do with our own body, if your a guy and dont like gay marriage, DONT MARRY A GUY but marriages wernt a part of humans characteristics, we made them. haveing them be illegal because of their gender is so retarded, people shouldnt be against them let them do their thing and you do yours. its like you all are secretly gay or sometihing

If that “every child deserves to be raised by a man and a woman” argument made a lick of sense, single parent families would be illegal as well.

If you’re not arguing that same sex marriages should remain illegal based on the child aspect, what is your argument that they should remain illegal? You’re not making any sense here.

The idea that liberals are more likely to interfere in people’s private lives is laughable at best. In the very example we’re talking about here, conservatives want to limit a person’s right to marry, a decision that has absolutely no bearing on anyone besides themselves! You can’t possibly believe what you’re saying.

HAHAHAHHAHA! you gotta see these too, the lost tapes.. http://www.vimeo.com/4093265
http://www.vimeo.com/4093390

anyways might as well let some gays have kids and marriage, seems like these days marriage is such a joke its like countdown til when they’re getting divorced from when they say “i do”.. and with how many kids these days are getting molested n shit might as well have some gay dudes get a baby girl and vica versa for females adopting.. basically 7 outta 10 girls Ive met and got really drunk or done anything sexual with has more or less at some point broken down about how they were either molested by a parent or close relative or basically forced(raped) to have sex with someone they were dating when they were about 13-15.. shits gotta be way worse than ppl think.. maybe we should let some homos have their hand at it, see if they can maybe not touch some fuckin kids like the other half of america seems to be down with.

How about you graduate high school before you cast your world perspective on us lowly little people. We were granted the constitutional right to bear arms to enable the american people to forcibly liberate themselves from a tyrannical government. Why would Thomas Jefferson & co want to concrete our right to hunt for food with guns in a time when if you didn’t hunt, you starved?

Greedy multi-national companies with roots in the united states SHOULD IN FACT pay more taxes, that is, if you go by the laws of taxation (the mor you make, the more you pay in taxes.) But this is only if you have been duped into actually believing that taxes actually are redistributed back out amongst the american populace in the form of infrastructure and human welfare needs. Not to mention that taxes themselves are unconstitutional and the IRS is british owned and operated. Look it up. It’s hidden in plain sight.

Christian radicals founded this country, and to quote the oft-heard saying, “love it or leave it,” I’m sure Mexico will take you. Just don’t expect a living wage. Do something about it or get the fuck out, pussy.

Agreed. Some “christians” become so heavenly involved that they’re worthless here on earth.

mangina!

Once again, we should be working on strengthening the institution of marriage instead of abolishing and redefining it.

I’m saying that the idea of children being involved in a SSM should not even have to be brought up, as SSM is already defeating one of the main purposes of marriage.

Are you completely ignorant to the ways of the world? Let’s look at the policies of liberals on; healthcare, taxes, gun control, and welfare. All of which are incredibly invasive to the “private” lives of citizens. If you want to argue the mindsets of conservatives vs. liberals by all means, lets.

In the mean time, get your argument straight. Simply denying reality won’t add any foundation to your argument.

i’m christian, and i’d just like to say, look at divorce rates these days…. it’s not like same sex marriage is going to make anything worse or less valuable. in the grand scheme of life, who cares, man and woman, man and man, man and dog, it’s their life.
i usually like to disagree with adam, because its hilarious, but he’s got a point. in 20 years people will look back and say, “wow, how stupid”

I love gay lesbians.

Did you really just insinuate that gun control laws have an effect only on people’s private lives? I just remembered you’re 15 so I’m not wasting any more time on this.

First, why is this on thecomeup? It is nice to see someone using his spotlight to shine on the needs of others, but why do I feel like there’s an ulterior motive?

Second, I’m not sure what all the fuss is about. Personally, I’m straight and I don’t want to be married *again*. Not sure the gays really know what they’d be getting themselves into there, unless they’re just in it for the tax incentives and insurance inclusions. My ex ruined marriage for me just like theirs will for them.

Lastly, do you really think that the general consensus of thecomeup readership are competent enough to intelligently debate this(or any other) subject?

this is really really stupid. im 14 for god sakes and i even know that people shouldnt care what other people do. i know plenty of gay people, and they dont choose to be gay, nor do you choose to be a christian or a catholic or a jew. nobody cares what religion you are, and you shouldnt care what orientation people are. honestly, this is america, and as fucked up as it is, the bill of rights states that all people have a freedom of religion, and you cant force your religion on other people. nobody gives a fuck about what you believe, and thats the cold hard truth. i personally dont believe in god, or religion at all for that matter. i think its absolutely crazy that a bunch of christians are going around in the government trying to stop people different than them. i can go on and on. and you know what? maybe i will. email me if you disagree. we can discuss it, or just ride.
v4511105@aim.com

I’m a christian and this ad makes me laugh.

you’re right, martin luther king should have gone to mexico because he didnt love segregation

Religion fails once again.

adam you and your secular atheist things are only because you are afraid of the truth, maybe you should consider something different? Im not pushing Christianity, though I am one. Believe in something. maybe even buddah. they have some line of morals.

No, he stood up and fought for his rights, versus sitting behind a computer and mindlessly complaining about his lack of. And since this was included in my above statement and you failed to respond appropriately, I kick you out of the united states too, asshat.

Van, you are a twat and are talking out of your ass.

why not just have morals without believing in a figurehead? why not just believe in the morals themselves and let it end there? Why not just believe in yourself, and the fact that you are a good person? Why not let your ultimate vision of yourself be your figurehead?

I suppose in technicality this is an “attack” because I am responding to you, but I would wish you wouldn’t view it that way. What you said just sparked those thoughts and I decided to respond.

Adam, I’m with you on a lot of things, but I’m sorry but that 15 or 16 year old just made you look like a dumbass. And you brush him off simply “because he’s 15″ when he is obviously intelligent, just holding opposing views.

I am far from conservative or religious but the childs-sake argument is a good one. It’s too bad it gets drowned down by Christian bullshit agenda. There is a common-sense, secular argument against SSM, and I wish that movement would grow.

And Adam, how can you not see that SSM would have an effect on others just as loose gun laws would?

WAT

Atheists AGAINST GAY MARRIAGE!!!! There is an argument!

yes, you should probably head off to your mensa meeting to talk with people of your caliber…

Atheists against SSM!

was there really an article about gays in BMX?

Why don’t we make a list:

Walter Pieringer
Jeremy Fanberg?

who else?

It’s nothing to be ashamed of right?

We met on monday. I’m lacking, I know.

A child has a right to loving parents, regardless if it’s a regular marriage or a same-sex one. Depriving a child of loving parents should be criminal, especially if the justification is because of same-sex marriage. Is it because straight couples only raise straight children because that’s obviously false. I honestly do not see the big deal. I’m not gay, so why would gays and lesbians getting married bother me? The fact is that it doesn’t. It will bother some people for a while though, like what happened during the civil rights movement, but people will move on and see how stupid this intolerance was. Oh and at no point did Adam look like a “dumbass” (he’s a lot more intelligent than I gave him credit for haha).

Life is about survival of the fittest. Gays can’t reproduce. Therefore they fail at life. Gayness is just a psychological problem. I don’t give a shit what you say. Gay is just plain dumb.

Let’s say one day you become a parent. Your child befriends another child whose parents happen to be in a same sex marriage. Do you think that your child spending lots of time in that household would be effected? Children are very malleable during their sexual development, so would your child be more likely to follow that path seeing this new accepted form of union? But let me guess you wouldn’t care if your child turned out gay, you would love them still.

Of course you would love them still. But look at health statistics and other unseen aspects of gay culture and tell me you would like to see your kid take that route. Can you not see the BIG picture? This has nothing to do with religion!

Please disregard all of van’s comments. Reason being He quoted a Dr. Phill show. i.e. “bans on interracial… …sexes together” Begin lawling shortly — Proof: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X_6-kqHJqpo&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fuser%2FNationForMarriage&feature=player_embedded

All the christians out there trying to end homosexuality cause its against jesus/god, isnt that what your god is supposed to do when he returns? get rid of all non-beleivers/evil people and send them to hell? Just chill out let them do what they want now cause according to you guys they will be doomed in the end for it. If thats true then you were right and they will suffer eternal punishment if your wrong well you guys just look like nobs for making them suffer now.

p.s dont have anything against christians. Only chirstians who try to force beleifs on others and try to suppress those different to them.

Life is your own.
Survival of the fittest has nothing to do with it.
Are we covering selfish fears?

shut up, im not an asshat so shut up, asshat

I’m a father and I would have no problem if my son wanted to play with a child that is raised by a couple of the same sex. The whole argument about children being raised by people of the same sex, is probably one of the dumbest arguments I have ever heard. A dad can pull mom duty, and a mom can pull dad duty. If I died and my wife were to raise my son do you suppose he would be a lesbian because he had no father? Maybe, he would become a transvestite to appeal to both sexes. Or, maybe he would be gay because he missed a man so much that he needed one to love him. Also, sanctity of marriage? What a fucking joke that is. Britney Spears can get married at a drive thru in Vegas then be divorced before she stumbles into the hotel room. Wow, that really helps “strengthen” the sanctity of marriage. If two gay men married and lived happily ever after they would strengthen the sanctity. Go read the bible some more Mr. Van Limbaugh.

The fear of death truly makes people crazy.

Let’s go beyond him just hanging out at that household. Would you be just as happy and satisfied if your son grows up to gay? Simple question.

ps. I’m married too. Nuts right? Dude I’m old. You know what else, why the fuck would I think that somebody else wanting to get married would affect my marriage? It wouldn’t, end of fucking argument. Don’t be scared to die, it happens to everyone. Don’t believe everything your parents tell you, they lie.

“Let’s go beyond him just hanging out at that household. Would you be just as happy and satisfied if your son grows up to gay? Simple question.”

I know what you’re trying to do. You want me to say: “I will love him no matter what”. Guess what. You’re god damn right I will. You obviously are not a parent. Until you are you will have no idea the feeling you get when you look at your child. If my son was gay, straight, it would not matter, what matters is the person you become. I would hope for a gay son far before a christian one. At least he wouldn’t be lying to himself.

First off I am an ATHEIST. Fuck Jesus. there.

Now, I did not ask you if you loved him. I know you do and you damn well should love him no matter what he turns out to be.

What I asked was:

Would YOU be just as happy and satisfied, if your son grows up to be gay. To know that he has to deal with discrimination, and a subsection of society with a high per capita incidence of HIV.

I also ask that you do some research on why homosexual sex can spread HIV more readily. To give you a condensed version, the wall of the asshole regularly is torn (very thin) during anal sex. This is what happens when something is repeatedly used against it’s design or intended use. This is what your son will be doing.

Well whether he’s tearing up dudes assholes or destroying dirty sluts sphincters, I hope he straps it up and is smart about it. That’s where parenting comes in, gotta keep the dude safe and hope he makes the right choices. And of course I would be just as happy and satisfied no matter his choice, even if he was some crazy Jehova witness that dry humped his way into heaven.

Now even YOU are lying to yourself.

Well, your insecurities have taken the best of you. I bet your parents are religious, am I right? You’re an Atheist because your parents want so badly for you to be Christian. I’m not going to worry about my son being gay, it’s a stupid argument. I just hope that I’m around long enough to see him be able to make any major life decision. Fabulous.. that’s a very gay name, aren’t you worried you might be gay? I think you should research that.

you guys are all wrong!!!!! Ahdamn most think were all fags.

n i didnt know gay ppl knew how to make it rain.. hahah..

i just dont understand y people care wether or not adam wants dick in his butt

Born of proud godless stock. But that was a fabulous attempt at psychiatry.

Go on, just avoid thinking of your son being gay since it’s such a stupid argument. So stupid you won’t even face the real implications of it.

You like the feeling you get of being “forward thinking” and so accepting, it’s so easy to jump behind a cause that is in fashion at the moment. But you don’t even want to think about the reality of it.

“HIV was God’s punishment for homosexuals” -Pat Robertson/Ronald Reagan

Well, old Pat and Ron were half right. HIV is a punishment, but it’s sent by Nature not father god and nature is a powerful thing. And that goes for straight folks that want to test their luck as well. Respect the natural order of the world. Homosexuality is just one way modern man is tempting nature. Guess who’s gonna win that battle…

It’s not only Christians who disagree with homosexuality. So let’s not make it Christians vs. the world. The law is based on the morality of the nation as a whole, and not on a strictly Christian agenda.

That being said, I am a Christian and believe homosexuality is a sin. I also believe the words of the new testament, in which Jesus teaches to not judge and harass people. Sin is sin. It’s all equal. If you don’t believe that, then you need to revisit the Bible. Did you slander someone today? It’s all the same. If it’s against your religion, stay away from it. Don’t meddle with people who don’t concern themselves with, or who are against your God animately. Vote against it, live with love, and move on.

Obviously, I’m against gay marriage. However, the reality of it is, The United States, while it was formed with faith and certain morals, runs on a Democracy. The separation of church and state impedes Christians, or any religion for that matter, from setting pieces of their religion as law for the whole. You don’t think separation of church and state is a big deal now, but wait till the roles are reversed, and our government begins telling Christians where/how/when/why we can worship. You’ll be crying for separation of church and state then.

“Vote as you wish, live with love, and move on” applies to both sides though. Christians are going to have videos for their causes, and their intended audiences SHOULD be other Christians or those on the fence. If you are staunchly for gay marriage, this video was not for you. Both sides should be able to voice their opinions (Democracy, remember?) without being harassed, granted that the message is not slander, inaccurate, or inflammatory. “Christians” on tv and at rallies that are holding “God Hates Fags” signs, are doing me as a Christian, a disservice. Those are not Christians, and what they are doing is not inline with the Christian religion in any way, shape or form. They’re clearly only reading half of the book, and I do not want to be lumped in with them only because we may vote the same on an issue, albeit for much different reasons.

I’d like to apologize for continually referencing “your son” which is kinda shitty in this context.

I just didn’t want people to think that religion is the only reason to oppose the growing acceptance of homosexuality. To me, there is a real parental and long term human concern here.

The real roots of religion are based in trial and error of living in nature. A gathering of anecdotes over the centuries. So there is the connection. Too bad religion gets so fucking skewed and twisted from it’s original fictional intent.

I sincerely wish everyone in the world could experience a healthy heterosexual relationship. It’s a wonderful thing and if we could work more on making those happen, the world would be better place. Don’t drag gays behind trucks, but don’t hold them up as a perfectly acceptable alternative.

dumb ass atheists dont realize that they are just like major religions.
trying to preach there shit without any proof that god dosnt exsist. acting like they really know shit. atleast christians belive that even tho they dont have evidence to prove there is a god, they can atleast have faith. after all, i belive god says in the bible that without faith he is nothing.

oh really, is that what he says?

There are plenty of proofs but none would ever be acceptable to you since god is only an abstract concept that lives in your head.

You just don’t see the absurdity of faith. It’s strength lies in it’s absurdity. Believe in something absurd, just because you can. Don’t question it. You can never question it.

FAITH IS A JUSTIFICATION BUILT OUT OF THIN AIR. Could be applied to any abstract claim.

I can see inside your mind as you are reading this. Can you disprove this? Remember I am sent by God to test your faith. Read it again.

Anyone who doesn’t think SSM will not affect anyone else is living in a liberal utopia fantasy world. Did you guys know married people get tax breaks? I suppose it’s incentive to procreate, but with SSM there is another large group of people getting married and that means less money for the government, which means they’ll either go into even more deficit, or the usual – tax everyone else more. I mean this is one tiny potential example of how it could affect everyone. I could literally think of dozens more that have nothing to do with you being Christian/Atheist, etc. It’s really too bad that there are about two and half intelligent people besides myself (Adam is the half) who read and comment on this site.

Oh and don’t even get me started on gun control, one of the reasons Nazi Germany came to power was through German disarmament. Look at what happened in New Orleans, police confiscate weapons and people can’t protect their own homes/families/etc when the police are nowhere to be found…

Start reading people, then you might gain insight.

ok, i am a masters student studying american history and “the right to bear arms” actually ment an arms dump where a militia could gain access to weapons if needed, NOT for every person to be able to own an assult rifle…com on…seriously. America is pretty screwed up when this kinda thin gis boradcast i mean if your gay so what as long as you dont interfere with me I dont care..

No you stupid fuck, “stupid atheists” use logic, reason and science in order to ascertain how the fantastical mechanics of most religions are completely improbable: Noah’s ark, 6 days of creation, no dinosaurs, any takers?
Don’t get me wrong, most religious texts provide a valid moral barometer to guide people through life, but to take them literally, come on… God is not a person or an all knowing soul, but a metaphor for the unknown. 2000 years ago most things were unknown, so the idea of “god” had a purpose, people needed some way to rationalize what they couldn’t understand;
however, today the human race has accumulated a vast amount of knowledge about the universe and there are only a few things left which can be explained away by god Problems which, at the rate technology is moving at the moment will most likely be solved within the next hundred years or so.
By all means, go on being the good christian and deny reality, picking apart the ever shrinking holes in scientific fact, because you haven’t got long left before the world comes to it’s senses, so you may as well use the opportunity to indulge your distorted view of the world whilst you still can.

To the christians who think homosexuality is a sin. You do realise people don’t decide to be gay right? How long ago was the bible written? People were dumb back then.

oh and they still are. dumb and deluded

oh and humans arent the only animals that can be gay.

oh and humans are actually animals, ok. just to clear that up.

now wait a minute that girl said that she watches her sons school teach him gay sex.
what school does he go too. cause when i was in school 2 years ago they didn’t even discuss gays even when we had a debate in American government.

EDIT: gay marriage

AMEN^^^^

Birds also fly into windows and break their necks.

hehe, the ole gay penguin trick.

Fuck off, just because other species pound the asshole doesn’t make it any more “natural”

A destructive trait is a destructive trait. I bet there are diabetic walruses too.

We SHOULD ALL EMBRACE TYPE 2 DIABETES! IT’S PERFECTLY FUCKIN NATURAL! DON’T BOTHER TRYING TO LOSE WEIGHT, WALRUSES ARE FAT TOO!!!!!

where is CDC when you need him?

**this goes here

hehe, the ole gay penguin trick.

Fuck off, just because other species pound the asshole doesn’t make it any more “natural”

A destructive trait is a destructive trait. I bet there are diabetic walruses too.

We SHOULD ALL EMBRACE TYPE 2 DIABETES! IT’S PERFECTLY FUCKIN NATURAL! DON’T BOTHER TRYING TO LOSE WEIGHT, WALRUSES ARE FAT TOO!!!!!

where is CDC when you need him?

this is typical christian behaviour.
dont they think that if somthing wasnt natural then it wouldnt happen?!
yeh everyone is entitled to their opinion, but somthimes u gota know when to keep ur mouth shut.

it’s actually a constraint constructed in nature, not at all by society… you dont see other animals engaging in such acts, because it doesnt procreate but thats besides the point… humans differ because sex isnt something simply for pro-creation as it was intended in nature… people will do what they want straight or gay so thats that…

gay couples should be able to marry because it doesnt affect others, they deserve happiness too. however you cant expect a child to be raised properly by a same sex couple UNLESS they are responsible individuals that don’t push their personal sexual agenda or life choice on the child (similar to religion or even politics!!!), rather let the child choose their own path and beliefs for themselves based on their experiences\upbringings\genetic disposition to lean one way or another.

if their brain happens to be wired one way from the start that’s not their choice so let them be… if being gay was promoted/drilled into their head like religion or political beliefs are often, thats not cool either though. Nothing at all against religion, but anyone remember the Virus of Faith post? same shit different topic.

it’s actually a constraint constructed in nature, not at all by society… you dont see other animals engaging in such acts, because it doesnt procreate but thats besides the point… humans differ because sex isnt something simply for pro-creation as it was intended in nature… people will do what they want straight or gay so thats that…

gay couples should be able to marry because it doesnt affect others, they deserve happiness too. however you cant expect a child to be raised properly by a same sex couple UNLESS they are responsible individuals that don’t push their personal sexual agenda or life choice on the child (similar to religion or even politics!!!), rather let the child choose their own path and beliefs for themselves based on their experiences\upbringings\genetic disposition to lean one way or another.

if their brain happens to be wired one way from the start that’s not their choice so let them be… if being gay was promoted/drilled into their head like religion or political beliefs are often, thats not cool either though. Nothing at all against religion, but anyone remember the Virus of Faith post? same shit different topic.

correction god doesnt say anything in the bible because he didnt write it. somebody else thought or heard he said that so they wrote it down. ever play the telphone game?

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“however you cant expect a child to be raised properly by a same sex couple UNLESS they are responsible individuals that don’t push their personal sexual agenda or life choice on the child”

So here we have 2 men who have proudly defied age old traditions and likely struggled growing up, strongly persecuted by society. Now they have reached their “victory” in marriage. These men aren’t going to push at the very least the pride of homosexuality on the child? That doesn’t predispose them to exploring alternative sexualities?

Homosexuals looking to have a family and adopt a child are doing it more for themselves than for the child. It validates their struggle and makes them think they are just as good as a healthy hetero family. They are stuck fighting a confused battle with themselves to the day they die and they will foster that same confusion in any children they raise.
All the while, kids in normal functioning hetero families often never even have that inner struggle and can go on to other more important issues of the psyche.

Many minority groups are able to blame their unhappiness and dissatisfaction on their supposed oppressors. I think gays think that once they can be “man and wife” and “have a child” all their issues will be resolved. I think they are going to find that there is still a void. They are at best playing house, and will never have the joy of raising a child that is the biological manifestation of man/woman love.

disclaimer: I am not religious, so don’t even come with that…

Nasatazio is pumpt.

Thanks to your gay right issues, we now have a world wide epidemic of A.I.D.S. Funny how people think they deserve special rights due to the fact they like to suck feces off of a penis. If America is so bad that you feel your gay rights have not been recognized, move to Iran, or Pakistan or Afghanistan. That would definitely solve your problems! You wouldn’t go to an NBA game and demand they used a football, would you?

im not against it

Wow, Fabs at first I thought maybe you had some sort of argument here, but now I just realized you’re a hateful little retard.

dude, right on

HUH

people still think the AIDs epidemic is the fault of homosexuals?
is there not schools in america?

Die Doug E.!

Marriage doesn’t make a kid. You’re arguing against homosexuality rather than same sex marriage. Your narrow minded hate is unreal

dude your total smartness is so good dude howd you get so smart in the good stuff with knowing all that smart stuff? thank god you comment here with the smart that you have

haha its crazy to see this kind of stuff. how backwords can you get

I always wondered how they got the shit out of the slit in their dicks.

This is just food for thought and I’m going to state it simple and not try to thesaurus fuck you guys into believing anything. There are a lot of arguments on here about how the kid will be raised. First off same sex couples already exist and already do adopt or artificially inseminate to obtain kids. So you have a kid already in the situation regardless of marriage or not. A pro argument for marriage is that when your kid gets made fun and comes back to the parents for reassurance, them being married could help comfort his pain. Them not being married could put the idea in the child’s head that maybe that bully was right since not even our government accepts it. Secondly more than half the arguments against same sex marriage on here are actually anti-homosexuality arguments. If you hate homosexuals that’s your problem but just try to remember what you’re arguing about.

This dude’s talking about getting backwards, and having a dick slid up in him. WTF is wrong with you moes?

militia=a rag tag group of otherwise normal members of society.

Everyone deserves the right to defend themselves, weather it be from the government or from ourselves. If you believe otherwise, try breaking in through my window at night and let’s see who dies first.

i just read some of the comments. their sure is a lot of biggots and morons on here

Very true.

Most of this is derived from Levitical law(the book of leviticus) which was written around 6 a.d. as a benchmark of the way to live to keep the people of israel(?I’m pretty sure, but I could be wrong) safe from their oppressive occupiers. The important thing to remember is that even though this was written after christ died on the cross, it is considered part of the old covenant, therefor moot in regard to the new covenant, which is considered the book for the new world.

Different sects, denominations of christianity tend to cling closely to different parts of this, but if you believe that all sin is equal, then it also states that men should not trim the hairs on the sides of their heads. So next time you go in for that fade, remember you’ll eternally burn in hell along with gays, murderers and adulters. Not saying these churches are wrong, just a little short sighted in regards to the true teachings of the bible.

Then again, it’s much more fun to judge others with a healthy lack of insight. The God I personally know and love, loves unconditionally, and calls us to witness to one another in a way to lead all to him. Kinda goes back on the whole “you can lead them to the water, but you can’t make them drink” saying. It’s not our job to judge. That’s up to him, and I believe this is the major fault of this group in the video.

Don’t type word diarrhea unless it’s at least clever. You obviously have the IQ of a small child.

Besides your dumbass…… It was Adam and EVE not Adam and STEVE! You gay boys go ahead and have fun. How you gonna let some other dude convince you to let him stick his dick in your ass? When you adopt that poor kid later in life, or your nephew wants to sit you down and ask why you and steve haven’t had any kids of your own, explain to him that your asshole does not produce eggs and only turds. Explain to him how turds and semem don’t mix and how it smells like feces but Steve makes you lick it off his penis and you enjoy it. WTF is wrong with you? I consider you a turd burglar! Stop thief!

CUE: far right media controlling america.
CUE: republicans controlling america.

Did you copy and paste this off the BILL-O website? You should take up suicide.

I heard your not a true christian unless you kill yourself.

Everyone is free to believe what they want. That’s what makes the united states beautiful. This is not an attack, but just something to marinate on.

Let’s say that in the instance upon your final judgement you realize there is, in fact very much a God that you refused to believe in all your life. Would you have rather lived pondering his existence and being ultimately wrong, or believed and been rewarded eternal life?

Who cares? Let the gays be gay and let the guns kill people. Assuming that most people that are pro-gun dislike the idea of same sex marriage. Wouldn’t the guns eventually wipe out the gays? I’m not hating and I’m not promoting the shooting(s) of homosexuals. Justing pointing out a fact.

….besides that whole opposable thumbs, ability to reason, and whites of the eyes thing.

You are wrong. This is not christian behaviour. This is judgemental asshole behaviour.

Adam22 just made me feel uncomfortable about eating hotdogs and bananas.

n/h

Faith is faith. Just that. Either you have faith or you don’t and are trying to find faith in something. God. Humanity. Logic. It can be applied anywhere.

Doug E., you’re an asshole producing eggs of shit!

Wrong.

I believe in our unalienable right to bear arms and I deserve the right to defend myself with said arms as much as you do as well.

I also would rather see a child grow up in a loving family, gay or straight, as long as the child’s needs were met first and formost. It seems all to often people forget the welfare of the child is what’s more important than anything. Would you rather place a child in an abusive straight household, or a loving gay household?

….and dicks. uh, I mean, dingdongs.

i knew some intellectual would make a pun of the word backwords. congratulations. but your still an invalid

I bet Oscar Meyer makes a killing off this site. Hotdog lovers!

What part made you change your mind?

cuz your gay and dont want to admit it?

then we mide as well fuck animals too!

i dont belive in god dumbshit so nice try in tryin to test my faith.
i belive that there are some questions man may never find out, such as the whole god issue. there isnt any way to prove he is there, you just have to simply have faith that he is. but there is also no way you can disprove that there is a god. the only ones who know are the dead.

@MMMMCXXX : youre obviously too fucking dumb to argue with, so just please be happy that most americans are just as stupid as you are and shut the fuck up.

wow 1 star youtube loves gay people.

how stupid are some people? they anit gona stop gay people geting married and they shouldnt be able to. just roll with it or get left behind

This part:

I sincerely wish everyone in the world could experience a healthy heterosexual relationship. It’s a wonderful thing and if we could work more on making those happen, the world would be better place. Don’t drag gays behind trucks, but don’t hold them up as a perfectly acceptable alternative.

Honestly, there is nothing wrong with being gay.

Way to admit defeat, dumbass.

There’s a big difference between tolerance and saying NOTHING is wrong with it. Do you honestly believe there is NOTHING wrong with it, lets say, from a basic physiological standpoint.

“arguments against same sex marriage on here are actually anti-homosexuality arguments. If you hate homosexuals that’s your problem but just try to remember what you’re arguing about.”

it is the same argument, unless you coming from some narrow baseless religious footing. And that is why those christian arguments are so weak. They can quote a couple of lines that most people don’t believe anyway. I can offer real concrete problems with homosexuality using common sense and science.

And i don’t Hate them, I just there are fundamental problems with them and don’t think they should be glorified.

“the welfare of the child is what’s more important than anything. ”

And that is exactly what the homosexuals miss. They are fighting this fight for themselves. To prove a point that THEY are every bit as good of parents as biological ones. REAL (sane) biological parents love and are motivated to raise their children because they are a piece of them and a literal manifestation of their partners love. This is a huge difference from 2 people trying to PROVE TO SOCIETY THAT THEY CAN PLAY HOUSE!!! The child is a footnote in that equation. Believe it.

Sorry for the inteligent americans, but sometimes I think that in USA some people just doens’t go to school, don’t have books or acces to information. It’s too much prejudice that I can’t understand it…
Good iniciative to put this political/social/human discusion here, Adam.

i hate queers. DIEEE

Kids suck. That’s why these comments suck, most people in here were clearly raised by homo’s…

i hope people are aware that “homosexual” relationships have always been present, since the earliest civilisations. i had a mum and a dad and the only thing that worries me about same sex couples are similar to the issues raised in the film ‘Idiocracy’.
Perhaps the US is already at the stage dipicted in this film? seems like it a lot of the time.