Atheism FTW!?

jesus isnt real

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more good times like this plz

Andrew Gobbo ain’t shit!

*insert a hundred comments from bitter atheists showing how sad and meaningless their lives are by bashing people who choose to follow the greatest person who ever walked the Earth.
*now insert a reply from a bitter atheist trying to claim that Jesus wasnt real, knowing deep down inside that he was just as real as any pharaoh or other historical figure of the time.

uhhhh

gotta love a smartass christian…

preemptive christian insecurity FTW!

don’t be mad just because i was able to beat you to the punch
atheist comments cry out nothing but insecurity

greg henry > jesus

you spit in the face of reason and daily bite the hand that feeds you. It is insulting. I don’t like snotty spoiled children either. Nothing to do with insecurity.

I have worn both shoes and I know which one is more secure on the foot, buddy.

yo, where’s the fish n’ bread n’ free wine n’shit??!!??? Ain’t no jebus jam without the fish

same goes to you pal. look in the mirror.

and my shoes fit quite snug thank you very much.

what do you have to say now buddy? your side sounds just as ridiculous to me as mine does to you. to believe that everything started from a big bang is just as crazy as christians believing that there is a creator. and don’t try to reply with “well science says” bullonie, the big bang started from an idea, not a fact, and from there people have tried to use science to show how everything was formed afterwards. people have also used science to show how the earth came to be the way it is today, after the creation, but just like on the atheist side, the base is built on belief, an idea. neither sides are proven 100 fact, which is why people have this argument everyday. and if you cannot see this, you should change shoes a little more often.

hahaha you crazy anonymous drama queens make me laugh
we call it Jesus Jam cause its on good friday, just like Turkey jam is on thanksgiving

but just to be clear, greg henry > jesus

Orbs= One bad mother! So tech and so dialed.

Amusing how you put scientific THEORIES based on empirical evidence on the same level as 2000 year old oral traditions. Do you know how few people could read and write and how easy it was to control “media” and use it for power interests for most of those 2000 years.

Your “divine” gospel and canon was decided upon by kings dictators councils of men. These men met up and decided which parts were written by god. And I promise you that the bullshit you see in politics today is nothing new. It was kicking back then too.

And it makes my giggle to watch Christians re-interpret their religion every few decades to accept societal changes that would have been blasphemous years before. You don’t even have the same Christianity.

You divide into hundreds of denominations all interpreting the same book differently. Goddamn God, why not just clear it up for us? Oh yeah, cos you don’t exist.

I went ahead and capitalized “theory” because I know that’s a word you’ll love to jump on. Please do…

thanks for proving my point queen.
you just did everything i said an atheist would do :)

oh, but you called me out on “theory”, well guess what. theories don’t bother me.
am i supposed to say something like, “its just a theory!” because that would be stupid.
i’m not comparing 2000 year old writings to science, i’m comparing ideas to ideas.
the very base of the big bang theory is not a scientific fact, it is an idea.

and thanks for bringing up the whole “re-interpret” thing, because atheists have NO room to talk. so many scientific theories and findings have been proven wrong over time. like the ol’ story of the scientist who found a bone and claimed it to be “the missing link”, and every body took his findings to be fact, but then it turned out that the bone belonged to a wild pig.
although certain PEOPLE may re-interpret God’s word, emphasis on people not God, to fit their lifestyle better, the Bible at least remains pretty consistent compared to “scientific” findings.

chill bros, i’m not trying to convert you.
i just want people to open their eyes and question EVERYTHING
must be weird hearing this from a “closed minded christian” eh?

I don’t mind “proving your point” at all. I like the discussion.

I take it you are one of these “cool” christians, trying to break the mold and bring salvation to the new generation. I can only hope that you venture far enough into your assumed “open-mindedness” and educate yourself beyond your WASPy influences.

“the very base of the big bang theory is not a scientific fact, it is an idea.” …I never said anything about the big bang, and of course it is not fact. You don’t even understand basic science. Errors are assumed and revisions are built in. Theory is only a best guess, but on the backs of repeatable experiments and results. You should look up scientific theory vs. scientific law.

Scientists are humbled by looking into nature. They do the best with the evidence they can gather and always expect to learn and improve on their ideas. Hundreds of years of scientific thought and concept building are not leading to proof that a man walked on water and turned water into wine.

This is similar to what primitive man did… the best idea they could come up with, considering the tools at their disposal, was a Father in heavens. It made sense, everyone has a father. This idea evolved into the oral traditions that formed the basis of your Christ character. We created god and gods in our own image. Read Genesis, does it really make sense that God had legs to walk around in the nothingness, a mouth to breath in the nothingness a digestive system to take in nothingness and convert to energy. Do you even understand the parts of your body? I guess not, cos you don’t believe in evolution…

And stop equating Atheists with scientists. There are Christian scientists and Atheists who don’t give a damn about the science. Some people can see through religion just by living life and critical thinking.

“*insert a hundred comments from bitter atheists showing how sad and meaningless their lives are by bashing people who choose to follow the greatest person who ever walked the Earth.
*now insert a reply from a bitter atheist trying to claim that Jesus wasnt real, knowing deep down inside that he was just as real as any pharaoh or other historical figure of the time.”

It is very feasible that a preacher or magician or whatever named Jesus walked the earth and had followers just like “any pharaoh or other historical figure of the time”
What is made up are the miracles. And Jesus’ entire claim rests on the backs of those miracles.

Let’s bring this to 2009… Let’s talk about Obama Christ. Did you see the fervor surrounding that man rising to power and his following? Well lets imagine for a minute that the internet doesn’t exist, print media doesn’t exist, and no one in America except for the royal elite can read or write. Now in that climate, if a rumour was started that Obama, this man who wants to save the poor, had healed a few blind people, walked across the reflecting pool on the national mall, do you think a hell of a lot of hungry obama fans would eat that shit up. You betcha. and it would spread like wildfire because he is feeding the hungry the message they want to hear. Salvation for those in the gutter of life. Salvation from the pain of life.

So, to be clear, I don’t deny that Jesus could have existed as a real person. I do know, however, that a couple thousand years of primitive communication and no scientific/journalistic standards, is plenty of time for a story to be distorted, exaggerated, and adapted for political goals. If you can’t entertain that reasoning, then you are far from the open-minded thinker you think you are.

“knowing deep down inside”… this part really gets me. Do you honestly think that fervent atheists, mock-satanists, hedonists really think deep down inside that Christ is real??? So they only live the way they do so that they can burn in hell? No. They are able to behave that way because they know there is no hell and they swallowed a healthy dose of modern nihilism. I think what you are mistaking is your own doubt that resides “deep down inside” of you. That perhaps you have really been fooled and are indeed talking to yourself in your head. I think that is what you fear. But what you fear most of all is the concept of hell and that is what keeps you in line. And that is a sad sad thing. There are people in the world that do good for the sake of humanity, for the love of life, right here and now, not for some cotton candy reward from papa at the end of ride.

hahaha
WASPy influences, that’s a good one.
i love information, i’m not scared to educate myself, thats what i did through high school and college (not christian schools btw)
i’m glad you at least agree that there are christian scientists. who, by the way, put up some pretty interesting theories of how everything came to be after the “creation”. theories that can be backed just as well as theories about evolution. both have their ups and downs.
and yes, i believe in natural selection, but to think that natural selection and helpful mutations alone, over billions of years, have allowed nonlife to evolve into the simple yet complex structure of a single celled organism, and then to evolve into the even more complex life forms we see today… well sir, you have greater faith than i.
i’d almost have to say i believe in devolution, makes more sense with scientific laws haha

youre assuming thats how primitive man came up with God, we don’t know that for sure, we don’t even know exactly how long people have been on Earth… just have some “educated” guesses. i assume that people haven’t been on earth that incredibly long, because i don’t buy the evolution theory. and i assume that God has always been with man since the beginning, the one true God (who i dont picture as a person), and after separation and thousands of years, people have created their own versions of God. but hey, thats just another assumption.

and i’m seriously not trying to get people to convert. i just get fed up with the convenient excuses that Atheists come up with. here’s an example, using the pig bone story from earlier…. Atheist: “Here it is, the missing link, proving that evolution is real, and there is no God!” years later, other’s find out that it was just a bone from a pig. Atheist: “Thats alright, science is all about finding new information” and everything is peachy. do you think this is okay? yeah yeah yeah, finding new information is great, progress is great, i understand all of that. i’m just wondering, how can atheists be so confident in their current ideas, when they know it can be debunked after the next great scientific finding?

basically, what i’m trying to say is (this is directed more to the other atheists reading this), look at the history of atheistic beliefs/theories, they have changed, numerous times. atheism isnt exactly solid enough to poke fun of christianity and it’s beliefs.

” i’m just wondering, how can atheists be so confident in their current ideas, when they know it can be debunked after the next great scientific finding?”

You seem to not realize that you use the products of science every day. Products of that process of eureka! then expansion upon that idea, debunking, improving tweaking.

Ever seen the commercial, “plastics make it possible”, there is some truth to that, not just plastics, but I guarantee you some of the births leading up to your glorious life couldn’t have happened without cold hard science. Go look at 19th century graveyard and count the number of memorials for people under 2 years old.

The vast majority of those loddy-doddy scientific advances you scoff at were made by people who embraced reason and put aside superstition. On the whole, religion is an enemy to that kind of thought.

Religion has served it’s purpose in the world. Comforting those that suffer, helping groups band together, etc. Like they say “opiate of the masses” We will always need something LIKE religion, humans need structure, standards of morality, but the old religions are dead, and those gods are dead. The old stories are holding back human progress on the global scale as we fight about christian vs. muslim, stem-cell research/medical advances vs. superstitious backpedalling.

I’d like to ask you, deep down in the pit of your being… what is your real motivation for following Christianity? I’d be very curious to hear.

Christians are scared

I clearly wrote that i understand that new information and progress is important.
i am happy that things get debunked, and tweaked, yadayada.

what i am not happy with is the abundance of atheists who get onto christians for what they believe, and heckle them, when their beliefs, what they believe to be the absolute truth, can be proven wrong with the next scientific finding. once again, not saying that new information is a bad thing, and the tweaking etc.
i hope i’m making this a little more clear… i just hate it when people act like their poop don’t stink. and yes, it can go both ways, christian or atheist.

religion isnt the enemy of scientific progress, God isn’t stopping people from doing stem cell research, God didnt say, thou shalt not conduct stem cell research. its people, fallible people who are making these decisions.

the reason i myself am a christian, is because i believe that Jesus Christ lived on this earth a couple thousand years ago, and truly lived a perfect life, fulfilled prophecies, taught some of the most valuable lessons, and died for our sins. through my life experiences, i have found that living by his word has made my life more enjoyable. and whenever i’m not living by his word, thats when life is usually… not so good.

and that is a very condensed version of why i am a christian haha
Jesus Christ is my motivation, simple as that

amen

yer he is i just played him on cod he is sick